House expected to pass bill making DC 51st state

[Brickjectivity]

I've always though it should just be merged in Maryland. There are plenty of territories more in need and with better cases for becoming states. DC is just weird.

Maryland probably couldn't cover the cost of upkeep, and Maryland needs to fix Baltimore before we let it control DC. Virginia needs to fix Richmond, first. Neither of them are good stewards of big cities.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'd like the District of Columbia to be renamed Douglass, in honor of abolitionist Frederick Douglass.

Nah. Minneapolis and St. Paul should be renamed Lincoln and Douglas. Doesn't matter which one gets which, just the reflection of respect enough for each other to listen, and the ability to learn, grow, and better yourself. And to reflect how it's pretty much the same with the Constitution itself.

I'd like DC to become a state along with Puerto Rico, because this would likely add 4 Democratic Socialist Senators and 6 Democratic Socialist Congresspersons to the Legislative Branch of the U.S.federal government.

That's a crap reason for wanting to grant them statehood. It should be because they lack representation despite bearing the burdens of citizenship (like military enlistment), not because it might give political advantage. That is a Machiavellian approach, and people deserve better than that.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Maryland probably couldn't cover the cost of upkeep, and Maryland needs to fix Baltimore before we let it control DC. Virginia needs to fix Richmond, first. Neither of them are good stewards of big cities.

Perhaps. But I still can't see granting full statehood to a relatively tiny dot on the map that just happens to serve as the nation's capitol.

 

[Suave]

Perhaps. But I still can't see granting full statehood to a relatively tiny dot on the map that just happens to serve as the nation's capitol.

DC has a larger population than Wyoming or Vermont. I don't think geographical size should matter for statehood eligibility.

 

[McBell]

DC statehood approved by House as Senate fight looms​

 

[Shadow Wolf]

DC has a larger population than Wyoming or Vermont. I don't think geographical size should matter for statehood eligibility.

There's about 100 metropolitan areas with populations close to or bigger than those states. About 30 individual cities.
DC is there because it's the nation's capitol. It's a city, not a state.

 

[Suave]

There's about 100 metropolitan areas with populations close to or bigger than those states. About 30 individual cities.
DC is there because it's the nation's capitol. It's a city, not a state.

Perhaps we should then consider having an additional small portion of land carved out of Maryland and Virginia for being annexed to DC in order to bring this state to the size of Rhode Island.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Perhaps we should then consider having an additional small portion of land carved out of Maryland and Virginia for being annexed to DC in order to bring this state to the size of Rhode Island.

Why? Why complicate things instead of just making it a part of another existing state. Like, the one it already is located within.
And it's a joke to grant DC statehood but neglect the territories who are taxed by and fight for this country sans representation.

 

[Stevicus]

My proposal is as follows:

Merge Washington DC into Maryland.

Merge Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands into Florida.

Merge Guam, American Samoa, and other US Pacific island territories into Hawaii.

That way, all of the citizens of those territories would become citizens of a state, just like the citizens of any other state.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I'd like DC to become a state along with Puerto Rico, because this would likely add 4 Democratic Socialist Senators and 6 Democratic Socialist Congresspersons to the Legislative Branch of the U.S.federal government.

You may be surprised what happens. "Don't count your chicks before they hatch." Some Democrats used to assume that immigrants from Mexico would be Democrats. They were wrong. Immigrants are thinking people who can vote either way.

 

[Suave]

My proposal is as follows:

Merge Washington DC into Maryland.

Merge Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands into Florida.

Merge Guam, American Samoa, and other US Pacific island territories into Hawaii.

That way, all of the citizens of those territories would become citizens of a state, just like the citizens of any other state.

My proposal is as follows:

Merge Washington DC into Maryland.

Merge Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands into Florida.

Merge Guam, American Samoa, and other US Pacific island territories into Hawaii.

That way, all of the citizens of those territories would become citizens of a state, just like the citizens of any other state.

I'd prefer statehood for Puerto Rico, Guam, America Samoa, the U.S.Virgin Islands and DC instead of these territories being merged into other states, because I'd like the prospect of there being 10 additional Democratic Socialist senators in order to be able to stop Senate filibustering against Progressive programs and progressive taxation..

 

[Brickjectivity]

Perhaps. But I still can't see granting full statehood to a relatively tiny dot on the map that just happens to serve as the nation's capitol.

If they make it a state the smart thing to do is to immediately move my place of residence there, because those citizens are going to be treated with favoritism. In fact this is a great time to speculate on DC real estate.

 

[Suave]

Why? Why complicate things instead of just making it a part of another existing state. Like, the one it already is located within.
And it's a joke to grant DC statehood but neglect the territories who are taxed by and fight for this country sans representation.

I am all in favor of statehood for Puerto Rico,, Guam, America Samoa, the U.S Virgin Islands as well as to a Rhode Island sized DC, because I am confident this would bring a 60 vote majority to Democratic Socialists in the U.S.Senate where the Republicans could no longer be obstructionists by filibustering.

 

[Suave]

You may be surprised what happens. "Don't count your chicks before they hatch." Some Democrats used to assume that immigrants from Mexico would be Democrats. They were wrong. Immigrants are thinking people who can vote either way.

I am pretty confident Hispanic Americans by at least a 2 to 1 margin will favor more social safety nets like universal basic income and medicare for all as wel as progressive taxation than the status quo welfare and tax system.

 

[Stevicus]

I'd prefer statehood for Puerto Rico, Guam, America Samoa, the U.S.Virgin Islands and DC instead of these territories being merged into other states, because I'd like the prospect of there being 10 additional Democratic Socialist senators in order to be able to stop Senate filibustering against Progressive programs and progressive taxation..

Well, perhaps this might be a good time to entertain notions of sections of states breaking off. There are those in southern Arizona (a Democratic-majority region) who want to break off and form "Baja Arizona."

 

[Twilight Hue]

How would that even work anyways?

Will the governor have jurisdiction over the Capitol grounds?

How would that work if the governor is a Republican or Democrat?

Wouldn't that create a conflict of interest with politicians who live there and subject to a governors political disposition?

Federal and state funding conflicts?

Say....

Don't pass this bill and I'll shut off all the lights in the Capitol until you do!

 

[Brickjectivity]

Another option is to break up the capital. We no longer need everything to be in one city. The capital building can be mobile, and national business is already handled in a jet plane. Why not have several places where Congress can convene?

 

[Stevicus]

Another option is to break up the capital. We no longer need everything to be in one city. The capital building can be mobile, and national business is already handled in a jet plane. Why not have several places where Congress can convene?

That's an interesting idea. I was also thinking that they could relocate the government to a large space station in orbit.

I think the US national capital should perhaps be moved to another region anyway.

 

[Subduction Zone]

They should call it Narnia.
Or Xanth.
Or Hogwarts

Or some other name that represents just how out of touch with reality they are.

I will vote "Yes!" if they take on the name Hogwarts.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I am all in favor of statehood for Puerto Rico,, Guam, America Samoa, the U.S Virgin Islands as well as to a Rhode Island sized DC,

It's a city. We aren't talking about some of the smaller states who were former territories before the Constitution was a thought.

because I am confident this would bring a 60 vote majority to Democratic Socialists in the U.S.Senate where the Republicans could no longer be obstructionists by filibustering.

Using people as a means to an end is a crap reason for wanting it. You don't see them as people, you see them as a political advantage. Their denied rights and full benefits of citizenship far outweigh your political wants. Even if they were hardcore Republican Conservatives, bearing the costs of citizenship without having access to the benefits is why they deserve statehood and representation. They pay taxes, they enlist in our military, they have zero federal representation. That is the issue. Not how they vote.