Homosexuality and Homosexual Marriages: Why do Christians Care?

[Skwim]

That is, care if others engage in them?


I know homosexuality has pretty much run its course here on RF, but I can't remember this specific point having been addressed, and just to be clear I'll restate the question.

Why do Christians care that people of the same gender engage in sex, and why do they care that they marry each other? Even caring to the point of voicing their objections and protesting?

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[The Emperor of Mankind]

That is, care if others engage in them?


I know homosexuality has pretty much run its course here on RF, but I can't remember this specific point having been addressed, and just to be clear I'll restate the question.

Why do Christians care that people of the same gender engage in sex, and why do they care that they marry each other. And even caring to the point of voicing their objections, and to the point of protesting?

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More to the point, why do they believe the rest of us should be subject to their religious narrative alone?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

People are nosy.

 

[Aštra’el]

Some humans enjoy manipulating and indoctrinating people. I completely understand.

 

[Kirran]

People have their view of how the world should be, and so the natural thing for the ego to do is try and impose that view.

 

[निताइ dasa]

It draws from their worldview and has its basis in either self-righteousness (I ought to judge and correct people when they stray from the wrong path) or altruism (If homosexual marriages are against God's commandants and punishable, I ought to show people the 'right' way so they don't get punished. In this way, I am a good neighbor, looking out for the spiritual being of others). Not saying these practices are justified, but its pretty easy to put yourself in their shoes and work out why they might be impelled to do as such. Some people really go overboard though.

 

[Kemosloby]

Less is more when it comes to homosexuality, I believe they are just trying to make the most of it.

 

[Deathbydefault]

The better question would be, why do people care about their opinion on a subject they should have no say in (in America)?
Lions do not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.

 

[Father Heathen]

That is, care if others engage in them?


I know homosexuality has pretty much run its course here on RF, but I can't remember this specific point having been addressed, and just to be clear I'll restate the question.

Why do Christians care that people of the same gender engage in sex, and why do they care that they marry each other. And even caring to the point of voicing their objections, and to the point of protesting?

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Another question: Why do these sort Christians obsess over homosexuality while paying little to no mind to other sins? Where are the movements to denounce drinking, gambling, getting tattoos, eating shrimp or pork, greed and selfisness, not being forgiving and turning the cheek, not loving ones neighbor, etc? Sure, there's abortion, but the closest the bible gets to addressing that is a fine for causing a miscarriage (Exodus 21:22), and then the occasional hang-ups regarding pornography (or at least things they perceive to be pornographic).

 

[McBell]

Another question: Why do these sort Christians obsess over homosexuality while paying little to no mind to other sins? Where are the movements to denounce drinking, gambling, getting tattoos, eating shrimp or pork, greed and selfisness, not being forgiving and turning the cheek, not loving ones neighbor, etc? Sure, there's abortion, but the closest the bible gets to addressing that is a fine for causing a miscarriage (Exodus 21:22), and then the occasional hang-ups regarding pornography (or at least things they perceive to be pornographic).

wow.
you forgot the d...

Divorce you perv

 

[columbus]

wow.
you forgot the d...

Divorce you perv

No kidding. It was one of His most unambiguous teachings. But people get all upset about things He didn't bother bringing up.
Tom

 

[Jackrabbti]

Another question: Why do these sort Christians obsess over homosexuality while paying little to no mind to other sins? Where are the movements to denounce drinking, gambling, getting tattoos, eating shrimp or pork, greed and selfisness, not being forgiving and turning the cheek, not loving ones neighbor, etc? Sure, there's abortion, but the closest the bible gets to addressing that is a fine for causing a miscarriage (Exodus 21:22), and then the occasional hang-ups regarding pornography (or at least things they perceive to be pornographic).

I don't know of any Christian businesses being closed down because the owners won't drink, gamble, or get tattoos. I don't know any public schools teaching the children of Christian's to drink, gamble, or get tattoos. I don't know of any Christians who don't drink, gamble, or get tattoos spreading AIDS. But, I do know many Liberals who have a fundamental inability to be honest....

When the Supreme Court overturned the last remaining bans on sodomy in the nation, there was hardly a peep from Christians (even though the Supreme Court overstepped its authority).

 

[Skwim]

When the Supreme Court overturned the last remaining bans on sodomy in the nation, there was hardly a peep from Christians (even though the Supreme Court overstepped its authority).

Evidently you mean

Lawrence v. Texas (2003)
The Supreme Court, 6–3, overruled a Texas sodomy law and voted 5–4 to overturn 1986's Bowers v. Hardwick decision. "The state cannot demean their [gays'] existence or control their destiny by making their private sexual conduct a crime," wrote Justice Kennedy in the majority opinion. In his dissent to Lawrence v. Texas, Justice Scalia said the court has "largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda."
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and feel the government should be able to demean the existence of gays and control their destiny by making their private sexual conduct a crime. So I have to ask, what is achieved by demeaning gays, and who is the victim of this "crime"?


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[Jackrabbti]

Evidently you mean

Lawrence v. Texas (2003)
The Supreme Court, 6–3, overruled a Texas sodomy law and voted 5–4 to overturn 1986's Bowers v. Hardwick decision. "The state cannot demean their [gays'] existence or control their destiny by making their private sexual conduct a crime," wrote Justice Kennedy in the majority opinion. In his dissent to Lawrence v. Texas, Justice Scalia said the court has "largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda."
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and feel the government should be able to demean the existence of gays and control their destiny by making their private sexual conduct a crime. So I have to ask, what is achieved by demeaning gays, and who is the victim of this "crime"?
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I'm sorry, what I said went right over your head.

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't know of any Christian businesses being closed down because the owners won't drink, gamble, or get tattoos. I don't know any public schools teaching the children of Christian's to drink, gamble, or get tattoos. I don't know of any Christians who don't drink, gamble, or get tattoos spreading AIDS. But, I do know many Liberals who have a fundamental inability to be honest....

Businesses are closed down if their owners aren't gay, and public schools "teach" kids how to be gay? How would that even be possible? With hormone therapy and retroviruses? Who's really being dishonest here?

When the Supreme Court overturned the last remaining bans on sodomy in the nation, there was hardly a peep from Christians (even though the Supreme Court overstepped its authority).

I think trying to control what happens between consenting adults within the privacy of their bedrooms is overstepping authority.

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[fantome profane]

I don't know of any Christian businesses being closed down because the owners won't drink, gamble, or get tattoos.

And I don't know of any Christian businesses being closed down because their owners were not gay, or married to a person of the same sex. I don't know of any Christian businesses being closed down based on what consensual adult sexual acts their owners did or didn't do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

 

[Animore]

That is, care if others engage in them?


I know homosexuality has pretty much run its course here on RF, but I can't remember this specific point having been addressed, and just to be clear I'll restate the question.

Why do Christians care that people of the same gender engage in sex, and why do they care that they marry each other. Even caring to the point of voicing their objections, and to the point of protesting?

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I'll try to see if I can give a Christian answer.

The best answer is, not all Christians do. The fanatics are the ones that do. There's been a lot of movements in recent years that emphasize tolerance and equality for all people in the Christian perspective. Some even preach that the scriptures are mistranslated and misinterpreted, and that the passages do not speak at all of loving, committed homosexuality that is not involving pagan-like practices. Of course you are most likely speaking of the ones that do. I honestly have no idea. I think half of them are closeted. Damn, I really want to say that to a Westboro Baptist Church member, if only to rustle their jimmies.

 

[McBell]

I don't know of any Christian businesses being closed down because the owners won't drink, gamble, or get tattoos. I don't know any public schools teaching the children of Christian's to drink, gamble, or get tattoos. I don't know of any Christians who don't drink, gamble, or get tattoos spreading AIDS. But, I do know many Liberals who have a fundamental inability to be honest....

When the Supreme Court overturned the last remaining bans on sodomy in the nation, there was hardly a peep from Christians (even though the Supreme Court overstepped its authority).

What Christian businesses are being closed down over homosexuality?
Remember now, you set the honesty bar in the above quoted post.
Don't fall short.

You will have to be specific which Supreme Court case you are referring to.
Again, remember you set the honesty bar...

 

[McBell]

I'm sorry, what I said went right over your head.

Only if what you actually said is only a small part of what you meant to say.

Of course, we can only go on what you actually said.
All the parts you keep to yourself cannot be taken into account.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

That is, care if others engage in them?


I know homosexuality has pretty much run its course here on RF, but I can't remember this specific point having been addressed, and just to be clear I'll restate the question.

Why do Christians care that people of the same gender engage in sex, and why do they care that they marry each other. Even caring to the point of voicing their objections, and to the point of protesting?

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It was put honestly by my former friend and Roman Catholic that [she] wished that America would go back to conservative values (women in long dresses type of thing). She also wishes the U.S. government were set up with Christian values as that's how she feels everyone would be happy is through Christ.

My other friend rationalize it as we, the LGBT...community have preferences rather than sexual orientations just as straight people and all humans do. Since she considers it a preference or something you choose, and both friends consider it a sin akin to murder (my other friend said gay marriage is like murder-said it out of her mouth on the phone with me), why would they want to have two people who choose to murderer people join together in marriage to murder some more and call it a holy matrimony?

Based on how they define the LGBT community, it makes sense. Morally and all the above, it does not.

Here is the reasoning behind both their arguments (the latter would not see it in the eyes of the Church; same context)

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

Unfortunately, according to the Church with whom I trusted, I have no inner freedom or anything of that nature while I still have this "disordered passion" inside me. They have a program that helps LGBT Catholics outside of their tendencies.

Based on their logic, that's why they care. Outside of that, I dont know.