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Hillary Clinton Approved Lies about Trump

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by KW, May 24, 2022.

  1. Left Coast

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    How is "I'm not totally confident this is true" the same as intentionally saying something that you know isn't true (which is what a lie is)?
     
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    Then it's a good thing no one brought this up. Good for you for not mentioning this rumor.

    It's not a lie if you claim it's a rumor, because then you've planted the idea in people's mind.

    Of course, some say gossip is a sin.
     
  3. Orbit

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    It's a lie that Trump said "Putin is a genius" and that he's a great admirer of the murderous dictator? Trump has all kinds of ties with Russia, where is the lie?
     
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    So you don't support Trump and all his lies about many, many people?

    It's not as if there wasn't evidence of fishy transactions. And it's not as if Trump isn't corrupt. The issue here is that there was a suspicion of Trump corruption, but lacked confirmation. So a leak of a suspicion of corruption in politics is pretty well accepted as OK. It's not as if conservative voters care about ethics. You can't make up things, like election fraud as Trump has done, but you can release info of fishy transactions and deals.
     
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  5. ChristineM

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    Sheesh, Murdoch is Australian, it makes no difference to the far right propaganda he insists his news (chuckle) outlets pump out
     
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    Is this a joke?
     
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    More propaganda. Steele made this stuff up and Hillary used it to lie about Trump.
     
  8. Estro Felino

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    I think that they have said anything about Trump. So, I guess that double standards is not a thing in my book, so I have the right to say that in my opinion, Hillary is capable of that.
     
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    Lying and breaking laws is only bad when the other side does it.
     
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    If the assessment of ethics is an absolute standard, sure, Clinton and Trump both did unethical things. But if we look into the depth and severity of ethics violations, well Trump is vastly worse than Clinton, and I assert the USA would have been better off with Clinton as president over Trump. I'm not a fan of Clinton, but she is much smarter and experienced than Trump, and vastly more ethical. Trump is a laughing stock, a joke candidate that conservative voters took seriously.
     
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    This post of yours is propaganda you were duped into believing.
     
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    So?
     
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    Personally i think it's bad when anyone does it but in general you have a very good point
     
  16. sun rise

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    Trump and company of course. Or are you ignoring the thousands of right-wing lies about the election and everything else under the sun.
     
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    More lies?

    Don’t you people ever talk about anything real?
     
  18. Father Heathen

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    You're right. I was just highlighting their double standard.
     
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  19. Father Heathen

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    Yes.
     
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  20. ChristineM

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    Yes, i understood
     
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