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Higher power (Christianity) Can u feel Jesus and how do you feel the presence of Jesus?

Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by Jim25, Sep 23, 2019.

  1. Jim25

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    I can feel his presence and I'm not really sure how I do that. Feel free to discuss how you connect with your higher being.
     
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  2. stvdv

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    Sometimes I am "not lazy" and do some intense sadhana, like there is a church where they sing hymns continuously for ca. 12-14 hours. They also have the short ones of only 4-6 hours, but that is too short for me. Never magic happens to me. When I go then I go totally and quite a few times magic happens (enough to keep me going:D). Jesus did appear to me, all His Grace of course (maybe to stimulate me not to get "lazy" again')

    So I think it's simple to feel Jesus ... just put in the hours of meditation, chanting mantras, singing hymns or whatever is prescribed.
    I don't say it's easy though. I have this tendency to be lazy when it comes to sadhana (12h ... come on Jesus .. actually it happened after 6 or 8 hours, but still ... but I don't complain:)).

    But once I heard My Master say something like:
    You are very fortunate to live in Kali Yuga. It is so easy now. No need to meditate just think of God 24/7 (meditation meaning "no thoughts" is kind of "not easy". Thinking about God (or your Master/Prophet) is way easier (creating thoughts is way easier than stop them). In Satya Yuga people needed to meditate for thousand of years to get 1 vision (probably not all at once:D ... spread over 10 birth or so)
     
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  3. Jim25

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    Thank you for sharing
     
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    What I have found is that it becomes like turning a ball valve in your plumbing. When we are focused on all the stuff in our world we are concerned and preoccupied with, we have the handle on the ball valve turned off. All the water only flows up to a certain point, which in this metaphor is the ego.

    Once we surrender the ego, and let go of holding onto all those concerns and distractions, then we can by a choice of the will to simply turn that handle and open up the rest of the plumbing that reaches from heaven above, so to speak. Then water can flow, and we are refreshed in the soul, needing fresh water to replace that stagnant water blocked and held back by the ego that stands in the way.

    Then, whatever form symbolizes that energy of Spirit, be that Jesus, or some saint, becomes instantly accessible to you at any point. It's never anywhere away from us, but simply not experienced because we have the ball valve shut. It's only our hand that can turn our own ball valve. It's all is only a choice in the end of letting go.

    Visuals help.... :)

     
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    Very clear to me.

    Why are people so focused on all the stuff in our world?
    Must be, that they never experienced "their higher being" I guess.
    But Scriptures, Saints and wise men tell us this is true (even our true reality)

    Still many don't believe this. Strange, they do believe and trust and have faith in all Scientific complex formulas to be true.
    I am not talking about God ... but about the immense power and Love (Great Unknown Mystery), that lies hidden in ourselves

    Why people have such a hard time "letting go of the ego" and find it so easy to hold on to distractions?
    That is all about our thoughts, words and deeds. Continued deeds create habit, create addiction

    If they would give it a try once, for 3 days being alone in a room, just some food, no distraction
    I am a researcher, so I check these things out. Do the time, then I know for sure.
    But I must admit, even then Maya tricks me all the time, but at least I know

    That is what all the Saints, Prophets told us
    A real Scientist would challenge Jesus, like I said above "pray for 3 days in a row ... let go of all other distractions"
    When I really need an answer and want it quick, I even stop eating. And if more urgent stop drinking.
    But even though I experienced this so much, I still am lazy, and let Ego/Maya win too much

    So what I think now, is, that this has to do with "lack of craving for our true self"
    And the only way to get a craving for our true self, is like explained above: Thoughts, words and deeds creating habit and addiction
    Only this time "Love addiction" as Goal. (and you can't have it both ways, that's obvious)

    If you want the hottest girl in the class, you "go for it" ... this all men know
    But not all men "dare"
    Same here?!

    Even women know it works if you are "hot" to get the hot-minded men
    So they dress up hot, and go through whatever it takes
    That's what is required to get to "higher Self" IME

    For me the words were "more visual" than the visual already:)
     
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    In my case, it's more of the actions on me dealing with the Holy Spirit. To explain this here again would take several long posts, so I really don't want to go through all of that again. If I was smarter, I would have written it out and saved it when I first posted it here, but... :(

    As a scientist, I never thought for one minute that something like I experienced would be possible and actually happen to me.
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    In my case, it's more of the actions on me dealing with the Holy Spirit. To again explain this here takes several long posts, and I really don't want to go through all that again. If I was smarter, I would have wrote it out and saved it when I first posted it here, but... :( As a scientist, I never thought something like that would be possible and happen to me.
     
  8. j1i

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    Thank you brother for participating
    I believe in Jesus as a distinctly human being born without a father
    With a sperm that blowed up from the Holy Spirit which is Gabriel
    In the hadith the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) says jesus called (Spirit of Allah (god) ) which is supported by Gabriel (angel that much close to god)

    I see that it is God who is unable to describe it has no parallel

    When I see the mechanics of heaven (huger than earth) and Even if God is found on earth as an object, he will not at least eat food or ...

    That is why I see Jesus as a being, And a symbol of justice and i will follow my brother jesus as human beings and not God

    I apologize just I love to participate and I hope that I do not cause bad feeling
    I want to relieve my conscience through human participation :D
     
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