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Heroes

huajiro

Well-Known Member
I am obsessed with heroes....I love to hear stories about people in history who did great deeds.....selfless acts.....etc. I know that history is not always true, but I love hearing it all!!!

I have a couple examples for you.....Manuel Uruchrutu is one:

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/item.php/2857.html

According to the government of the state of Sonora, México, Manuel E. Uruchurtu was born on the 12th of June, 1872, in Hermosillo, the capital of the state. He was a member of a very prestigious family. The young Uruchurtu travelled to México city to study Law at the National University. Later, he was married to his study partner, with whom he had 7 children.

Manuel Uruchurtu was an up-and-coming Mexican diplomat when he decided to travel aboard the Titanic. The night the Titanic crashed against the iceburg (the 14th of April), Mr. Uruchurtu was guided to a lifeboat with the other affluent passengers. When he was aboard the lifeboat, a young lady named Elizabeth Ramell Nye approached and implored that she be let on. She claimed that her husband and child were waiting for her in New York. The officers did not let her board the vessel, claiming that it would risk the safety of those already aboard.

Manuel Uruchurtu stood up, got out of the lifeboat, and offered his place to the young lady. As he knew that this meant his certain demise, he asked one favor of Mrs. Ramell Nye. He asked that she travel to his home to let his wife know of his last moments.
Elizabeth Ramell Nye was saved, Mr. Uruchurtu was not.

It was later discovered that Mrs. Ramell Nye had lied about her husband and child, but she did keep her promise. She travelled to Jalapa, Veracruz, México in 1924 to tell the widow Uruchurtu about her husband's death.
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
One of my heroines is right here on the board. Not cos she can throw poo over a skyscraper, or leap over 200 hundred Jehova's witnesses.

But because she has a great heart man.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
No problem *No's*....here is another one for you:

The Saint Patrick's Brigade:

SAN PATRICIO - THE IRISHMEN WHO DIED FOR MEXICO
by John Vincent


An Irish Batallion unique in military history.

Anyone who is Irish or of Irish descent and who has lived or travelled in Mexico will no doubt be familiar with one of the best kept secrets in the colourful world of Irish emigrants. The famous Saint Patrick's Battalion of the Mexican Army during the US-Mexican War has placed the Irish as a revered race in Mexico; even to this day, an Irish person in Mexico will be told a countless number of times about the famous 'Irish Martyrs' who defected from the US Army and gave their lives trying to save Mexico from US aggression from 1846-1848.

The legend of the Saint Patrick's Battalion, or 'los San Patricios' as they are referred to in Spanish, has been widely written about in Mexico over the last 150 years. Articles in historical magazines and journals have appeared in the US, as well as a romanticized play about this famous battalion, but not until the recent publication of Shamrock and Sword: The Saint Patrick's Battalion in the US-Mexican War, by Robert Ryal Miller, a professor of Mexican history at California State University at Hayward, has a major study of the San Patricios been done in the English language.

Since the Saint Patrick's Battalion was made up of deserters from the US Army, it only seems natural that they have been erased from American history. Professor Miller spent more than two years researching this story in Mexico, the US and Ireland. First and foremost, his book tells the compelling story of this forgotten band of Irish renegades; however, Miller also provides readers with a thorough history of the US-Mexican War, which traditionally has been considered less significant in American history than the Revolutionary War which preceded it and the Civil War which followed shortly afterward.

On the other hand, in Mexico this war has been taught, in a doctrinaire manner, as the most devastating event in Mexican history. Excluding Texas, which had won independence from Mexico a few years earlier, Mexico lost one-half of its total land, which now accounts for the US states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado and Montana; this, more than half a million square miles that Mexico was forced to cede to the US, represents an area larger than France, Spain and Italy combined. Small wonder that this war continues to be a sore point for Mexican attitudes towards the US, especially in light of the fact that the subsequent discovery of rich gold and silver deposits in California and Nevada sparked an economic boom and the westward expansion of the US into a bi-coastal nation.

John Riley
The story of this famed group begins with the founder and chief conspirator, John Riley, a Galway native born in 1817. Riley deserted from the British army while stationed in Canada and went to Michigan, where he later enlisted in the US Army in 1845. He was able to defect to the Mexican Army when his commander granted him permission to cross into Mexico to attend mass. It was there, in Matamoros, Riley joined the Mexican Army as a lieutenant, which resulted in his pay rising from seven dollars per month to 57 dollars per month. While desertion from the US armed forces was punishable by death, Riley was not deterred in capitalizing on the dis-satisfaction of many Irish-born US soldiers with their adopted country. Aided by his second-in-command, Patrick Dalton, who was from the parish of Tirawley, near Ballina, County Mayo, Riley at first was successful in persuading 48 Irishmen to defect, and these men made up the original Saint Patrick's Battalion. In addition to more Irishmen joining, they welcomed other foreign-born US deserters, as well as American-born deserters. Also, some Irish-born civilian residents of Mexico were persuaded to join the struggle. Even when the number of San Patricios rose to more than 200, Irish-born members still represented nearly 50 per cent.

Miller describes in detail the ways that Riley and Dalton collaborated with Mexican generals to distribute handbills urging Irish and other foreign-born Catholic soldiers to defect. For instance, one such handbill read:

Irishmen! Listen to the words of your brothers, hear the accents of Catholic people . . . Is religion no longer the strongest of human bonds? . . . Can you fight by the side of those who set fire to your temples in Boston and Philadelphia? Are Catholic Irishmen to be the destroyers of Catholic temples, the murderers of Catholic priests . . ? Come over to us; you will be received under the laws of that truly Christian hospitality and good faith which Irish guests are entitled to expect and obtain from a Catholic nation . . .May Mexicans and Irishmen, united by the sacred tie of religion and benevolence, form only one people.

Motivation
While it is widely perceived in Mexico that the San Patricios defected solely on the issue of religion, this myth is examined in a later chapter entitled 'Why they Defected'. The fact that there was rampant anti-Catholic bigotry in the US at that time does not play as great a role in the formation of the unit as is believed in Mexico. Miller posits that the religious bond was not a main reason why many defected. The attractive offer of high pay in the Mexican Army and the promise of land grants to defectors after the war outweighed the fraternal bond over religion, according to Miller.

A main reason for their hero status in Mexico is derived from their exemplary performance in the battlefield. The San Patricios ultimately suffered severe casualties at the famous battle at Churubusco, which is considered the Waterloo for the Mexican Army in this war. Mexican President Antonio Lopez Santa Anna, who also commanded the armed forces, stated afterwards that if he had commanded a few hundred more men like the San Patricios, Mexico would have won that ill-famed battle.

Each San Patricio who deserted from the US side was interned after the war in Mexico and subsequently given an individual court-martial trial. Many of the Irish were set free, but some paid the ultimate price. Roughly half of the San Patricio defectors who were executed by the US for desertion were Irish. Those Irish who were released by American authorities did not return to the US; some stayed in Mexico while most returned to Ireland, including John Riley who, surprisingly, was spared execution.

Unique
In addition to the interesting story of how the Saint Patrick's Battalion was formed and their significant role for Mexico in the war, Miller makes it clear from the beginning how truly unique the San Patricios are in history. He points out that although many famous generals in world history - such as Augustus Caesar, George Washington and Napoleon Bonaparte - made use of foreign legions or alien mercenaries, these foreign brigades were not made up of deserters from the enemy army. Similarly, they cannot be compared to other Irish foreign brigades such as the Royal Irlandais, the Irish contingent that fought with the French at the battle of Malplaquet in 1709; nor to the Irish brigade formed in 1803 that fought with Napoleon Bonaparte; nor to the Irish regiments of Irlanda, Waterford and Ultonia that formed a part of the Spanish Army in the eighteenth century; nor to the famed Irish Legion of several thousand men that aided Simon Bolivar in the liberation of South America; unlike the San Patricios, these groups did not consist of deserters from the enemy either.

Furthermore, Miller makes it clear that the Irish deserters of the Saint Patrick's Battalion were in no way representative of the Irish-born soldiers who made up one-fourth of all enlisted men in the US Army during the US-Mexican War. There were seventeen totally Irish companies who saw action in this war; many were highly decorated units such as the Emmet Guards from Albany, New York; the Jasper Greens of Savannah, Georgia; the Mobile Volunteers of Alabama; the Pittsburgh Hibernian Greens.

Heroes
Robert Miller relates in his book, Shamrock and Sword: The Saint Patrick's Battalion in the US-Mexican War, the importance of these Irish renegades has not waned in Mexico over the years. In 1959, the Mexican government dedicated a commemorative plaque to the San Patricios across from San Jacinto Plaza in the Mexico City suburb of San Angel; it lists the names of all members of the battalion who lost their lives fighting for Mexico, either in battle or by execution. There are ceremonies there twice a year, on September 12 which is the anniversary of the executions, and on Saint Patrick's Day. A major celebration was held there in 1983, when the Mexican government authorized a special commemorative medallion honouring the San Patricios. First there was a special mass at a nearby parish, then school children placed floral wreaths at the plaque; the Mexico City Symphony played the national anthems of both Mexico and Ireland; Mexican officials eulogized the Irish Martyrs, and a few words were spoken by Irish Ambassador Tadgh O'Sullivan.

While the brave soldiers of Saint Patrick's Battalion are not particularly well-known outside Mexico, it is clear in Miller's book that their god-like status in Mexico is enough to compensate for the attention they failed to receive in other countries. This book is fascinating in content, and for the fact that it has taken so long for a major work to be written about the San Patricios in the English language.

 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
Part 2:

Fr Eugene Mc Namara
During the trials, another significant event occurred when the apprehension and execution of Fr Eugene McNamara was called for. Fr McNamara was named as a principal conspirator. A native of Ireland who began working as an apostolic missionary in Mexico more than two years before the start of the war, McNamara plotted with the Mexican foreign minister on schemes to encourage Irish-born soldiers to defect from the US army. One plan was to offer them land in California after the war if they defected. Apart from his role in the war, Fr McNamara regularly visited California and even before the war was consulting with the Mexican government about a plan to bring ten thousand Irish immigrants to settle in the Sacramento Valley area. The priest's plan was foiled because of the outbreak of the war and the fact that Mexico lost what is now the state of California to the US. However, had there not been a war and the ten thousand Irish had settled there, Mexico could have rivalled Argentina as the country with the largest Irish population outside of the English-speaking world. The great success that the Irish community in Argentina has had is a strong indication that the Irish settlers would have been successful in Mexico. While Fr Eugene McNamara did not see his plan become a reality, he was fortunate enough to escape execution by eluding the squads of US soldiers looking for him, and returning to Ireland.

This Surname History is reproduced with the kind permission of Irish Roots Magazine in which it was first published as part of the feature article, Surnames of County Cavan, in Issue 1, 1993.
 

No*s

Captain Obvious
Again, thank you. I was aware of an Alamo-like fight in which a bunch of kids tried to fight the U.S. army, but not this.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
How about this one?:

BARTOLOME DE LAS CASAS: FATHER OF LIBERATION THEOLOGY
(1474 - 1566)
Mention liberation theology and images that immediately come to mind are those of 1960s-style antiwar, anti-establishment priests
like the Berrigan brothers or, more recently, Bishop Samuel Ruiz García and his obvious sympathy with the downtrodden Indians and
Zapatista rebels in Chiapas.
Liberation theology didn't begin with the Berrigan brothers or Bishop Ruiz. As far back as the l5th and l6th centuries, a remarkable
man devoted the greater part of his 92 years on earth to ameliorating the lot of non-Caucasian people who lived in the vast Spanish
empire. First known as a protector of Indians, he also became an advocate of black Africans who had been brought over by the Spaniards
as slaves.
Las Casas was born at Seville in 1474. His father, of humble origin, could accurately be described as a nouveau riche. A common soldier
under Columbus in his first voyage to the New World, he acquired enough wealth in the Indies to send his son to the prestigious University
of Salamanca. For one who attained such prominence as a cleric, Bartolomé was rather tardy in taking religious orders. Though he studied
both divinity and law, he took only a law degree when he completed his studies in 1498. In 1502 he accompanied the conquistador Gonzalo
Fernández de Oviedo to the New World in what was then the greatest armada ever sent out from Spain.
In 1510, at age 36, Las Casas finally entered the priesthood. Ordained at Santo Domingo, capital of Hispaniola, he was the first priest
ever to be consecrated in the colonies. The following year he accompanied the expedition that set forth from Hispaniola to occupy Cuba.
It was there that Las Casas first began to gain his reputation as a protector of the Indians. Leading opposition forces against the
Spanish invasion was a chief named Hatuey. Captured, he was sentenced by the governor, Diego Velázquez, to be burned alive. Though
Las Casas intervened in Hatuey's behalf, he was overruled by the governor. But he had one consolation: Hatuey's death gave him vivid
material for his exposé of Spanish cruelty toward the Indians. In his Brief Account of the Destruction of the Indies, Las Casas relates
that Hatuey was given a chance to embrace christianity before being burned so that his soul might go to heaven. The condemned chief asked
if he would find the white man there. Told he would, he made this poignant reply: "Then I will not be a Christian, for I would not again
go to a place where I must find men so cruel!"
This experience launched Las Casas on his lifelong crusade against mistreatment of Indians, as exemplified by two institutions known as
the encomienda and the repartimiento. The former referred to lands "commended" to settlers and the latter to the requirement that Indians
work these lands for little or no pay and frequently under the lash.
In 1516 Las Casas returned to Spain to plead the Indians' case with King Ferdinand V. On arrival, he learned that the king had died and
that his grandson and successor, Charles V, was out of the country. Fortunately, he found an ally in the regent, Cardinal Francisco
Jiménez y Cisneros. Jiménez named him "Protector of the Indies" and, in 1520, authorized him to found a model colony in Santo Domingo.
That the effort failed was hardly the fault of Las Casas. The Indians in the designated area, who had been feuding with the Spanish
settlers, found themselves the target of a punitive expedition that arrived at the same time as Las Casas. Discouraged, he took refuge
in a monastery run by Dominicans, an order he eventually joined.
But such an indomitable spirit could not be quenched for long. Following service in New Spain (Mexico), Nicaragua, Peru and Guatemala,
he obtained an audience with Charles V. The result of that meeting was promulgation of the Nuevas Leyes de 1542, which dealt a severe
blow to the encomienda. Unfortunately, these laws were repeatedly flouted by greedy settlers.
Though Las Casas supported the importation of blacks to the New World, he heatedly denied accusations that he was simply substituting
one form of slavery for another. He wanted the blacks as free laborers, not slaves, and he insisted that "the same law (of 1542) applies
equally to the Negro as to the Indian."
Las Casas was almost as well-known a writer as he was an activist humanitarian. His most celebrated work was the magisterial three-volume
Hístory of the Indies; among other writings were The Only Way to Bring People to Relígion and Treatises, Letters and Memoirs.
There are remarkable parallels between the careers in Chiapas of Las Casas and Ruiz, his latter-day spiritual descendant. Turning down
the bishopric of Cuzco, Peru, Las Casas came to Chiapas in 1544, at age 70. William Prescott, leading 19 century historian of the conquest
of Mexico, writes as follows: "The colonists looked on his coming with apprehension... everywhere he was received with coldness... yet
he showed no disposition to conciliate his opponents... (he) outraged the plantees'' and "incurred the disapprobation of his own brethren
in the Church."
Finally, fearing for his life, the 73-year-old bishop returned to Spain in 1547. He never returned to the New World. But he had ready
access to court, living in Madrid and using his favor in royal circles to act as a gadfly. He never abandoned his single-minded crusade
to help the Indian and in 1550 organizad a meeting of high civil and ecclesiastical authorities to consider the treatment of indigenous
peoples in the Americas. He died in 1566, at the convent of Santa María de Atocha in Madrid.
This premature liberation theologian resembles both the historical Englishman, Sir Thomas More (author of Utopia who paid for his
idealism with his life) and the fictional Spaniard Don Quixote. The Candide-like optimism of Don Bartolomé and his schemes for utopian
settlements were ridiculed by hard-boiled Spanish captains in the tradition of Cortés, whom Las Casas despised as a vulgar adventurer.
Though considered a failure in his lifetime, he left a legacy of humanitarian thinking behind him that would inspire Indian emancipation
movements from the Rio Grande to Tierra del Fuego.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
I really dont want this post going off and being lost at the bottom. I really want to know about more heroes.....please help me with this guys.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
V heroes? Is that virtual? If so, no....I want real stories of people throughout history. I want to learn from them. We should follow their examples.
 
Boudicea/Boudicca, the tall, red-headed queen of the Iceni tribe in Anglia, England, led her tribe against the invading forces of Rome (though her force was not successful). She is my heroine because she proved the abilities of women as leaders and because she stood up for her people.

Dio Cassius says of Boudicca:

"Boudicca was tall, terrible to look on and gifted with a powerful voice. A flood of bright red hair ran down to her knees; she wore a golden necklet made up of ornate pieces, a multi-coloured robe and over it a thick cloak held together by a brooch. She took up a long spear to cause dread in all who set eyes on her."Apparently her chariot had knives set into the wheel hubs. Wouldn't have liked to have had her chasing me in that thing.....
 

No*s

Captain Obvious
I'll have to go digging to see what all I can dig up lol. I do have a few I can post.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
Isis-Astoroth said:
Boudicea/Boudicca, the tall, red-headed queen of the Iceni tribe in Anglia, England, led her tribe against the invading forces of Rome (though her force was not successful). She is my heroine because she proved the abilities of women as leaders and because she stood up for her people.

Dio Cassius says of Boudicca:

"Boudicca was tall, terrible to look on and gifted with a powerful voice. A flood of bright red hair ran down to her knees; she wore a golden necklet made up of ornate pieces, a multi-coloured robe and over it a thick cloak held together by a brooch. She took up a long spear to cause dread in all who set eyes on her."Apparently her chariot had knives set into the wheel hubs. Wouldn't have liked to have had her chasing me in that thing.....
Thank you for that.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
Hmmm, one person cam up with a hero. Aren't heroes the ones who should inspire us? I think everyone in RF should have at least one. If you are feeling a little lazy....give me the name and a brief description, and I will look them up and share the info
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
I really don't have anyone i aspire to be like...actually i have someone who i aspire to NOT be like and that's my father...
He left when i was about 11 and we haven't spoken but twice in the past 12 years or so...he wasn't much of a father or a husband...so i try to NOT be like that:mad:
 
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