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Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Lord Tanais Rahn, Dec 5, 2004.

  1. nightwolf

    nightwolf Member

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    Lets not forget the part where christains wil be persecuted for there beliefs (already happening). And also lets not forget about the mark of the beast planted upon the forehead or hand (happening here).
     
  2. Lord Tanais Rahn

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    conquest, the first horseman

    '(Rev 6:1-8 NIV) I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" {2} I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest. '
     
  3. may

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    The Bible foretold that in the time of the end of this system, a fiery-colored horse, symbolizing war, would gallop throughout the earth. We read at Revelation 6:4: "Another came forth, a fiery-colored horse; and to the one seated upon it there was granted to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another; and a great sword was given him." Since 1914 we have seen this symbolic horseman "take peace away," and the nations have gone right on fighting and waging war.
    What must not be overlooked is religion’s role in these wars and killings. Mankind’s blood-drenched history can be attributed in great measure to the misguiding influence of false religion. Catholic theologian Hans Küng wrote: "There is no disputing that in negative, destructive terms [religions] have made and still make an enormous contribution. So much struggle, bloody conflicts, indeed ‘religious wars’ are to be held to their account; . . . and this also goes for the two world wars."
    How does Jehovah God regard false religion’s role in killings and wars? God’s indictment of false religion, recorded at Revelation 18:5, states: "Her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind." False religion’s complicity with the political rulers of the world amounts to such bloodguilt, such a mass of accumulated sins, that God cannot possibly ignore it. He will soon completely eliminate this stumbling block on the way to true peace.—Revelation 18:21

     
  4. Lord Tanais Rahn

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    are we all just reading different bibles?
     
  5. true blood

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    Paul warns of the coming time of the end in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12.

    Rev. 17:6 gives info about a super-church that will be able to command the devotion of hundreds of millions. This church will be in alliance with the political powers of the Middle East. The unholy alliance is portrayed symbolically in Rev. 17 descibing a wicked harlot riding a scarlet-covered beast. The harlot is a symbol of religion and the scarlet beast represents the political power of the Mediterranean in the end time.

    Although the idealism of Communism does not seem to be foretold in the end time, the Communist dedication to atheism, materialmism and military power it spawned will prepare the way for the final form of world religion. The harlot church will be destoryed and burned with fire by the 10 kings associated with the Mediterranean dictator.

    Daniel 9:27 says the last 7 years leading up to the second coming of Christ will begin with a peace settlement. The details are not specific in regards to the covenant to be made but it says it will be an attempt to settle the Abab-Israeli controversy. In Daniel 7:7 and 24 a symbolization of ten horns on a beast signifies the last world empire, the Roman Empire in its final form. Common Market of Europe? Who knows... but it will be such a confederacy that will have the economic and political power necessary to control the Mediterranean.

    Basicly we need to see an Arab leader emerge from the Middle East, Osama? Who knows... Israel's peace plan. This leader and Israel will broker a deal, the scriptures are clear about that. There will be a deal to allow Israel to contine and renew her religious ceremonies, including rebuilding the temple and reactivation of Jewish sacrifieces. However it will be a peace made to be broken. The peace will only be observed for 3 and 1/2 years. The peace is basicly a bid for world recognition by the new leader of the Mediterranean Confederacy. Could this be a terrorist organization?
     
  6. may

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    This religious woman spoken of in revelation 17;3-6 is referred to as Babylon the great ,(the world empire of false religion)she is also the mother of the harlots because all the individual false religions in the world including the many sects in christendom are like her daughters , imitating her in committing spiritual harlotry ,she is also the mother of disgusting things ,in that she has given birth to such revolting offspring as idolatry,spiritism, fortune-telling, astrology,palmistry, human sacrifice, temple prostitution, drunkenness in honor of false gods ,and other obcense practices.
    If the ten kings that you mention are the ones in revelation 17;12-14 these ten horns depict all the political powers that presently hold sway on the world scene and that support the image of the wild beast.Today,nationalism is one of the strongest forces motivating these ten horns .They have one thought, in that they want to preserve their national sovereignty rather than accept Gods Kingdom,Such an attitude ensures that the horns will oppose the lamb, the Lord of lords and king of kings,because Jehovah has purposed that his Kingdom under Jesus Christ will shortly replace all these Kingdoms.(daniel 7;13,14; matthew 24;30 matthew25;31-33,46;of course ,there is nothing that the rulers of this world can do about Jesus himself he is in heaven, far out of their reach ,soon though, the time will come for Gods Kingdom to crush and put an end to all these Kingdoms(daniel 2;44)
     
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