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Hebrew Scripture

Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by pearl, Sep 10, 2020.

  1. pearl

    pearl Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know of a text, concerning the importance of the Torah, and I
    can only paraphrase, 'My people have forsaken the Torah, better they had forsaken me for the Torah would have brought them back to me.'
     
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    Harel13 Am Yisrael Chai
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    It's a midrash in Eichah (Lamentations) Rabbah, Petichta 2:
    R. Huna and R. Yirmiyah said in the name of R. Ḥiya bar Aba: It is written: “They forsook Me and did not keep My Torah” (Yirmiyahu 16:11). Would that they would forsake Me but keep My Torah! From their engagement with it, the light within it would bring them back to good. (English translation here, original Hebrew/Aramaic here) ​
     
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    Thanks much for such an in depth explanation, although well beyond my grasp. The question came up as I was discarding some very old notes taken from a speaker on the Torah. He left off the Torah would bring them back. This was 40 years ago and could no longer remember where to locate the verses. Still not sure where I found them in Christian Scripture. Again, thankyou.
     
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    Hi pcal, can you tell me how you go about creating a new thread on this forum?
     
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    Each forum offers a 'create new thread' box, just click on it and follow.
     
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    Not this one.
     
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    Click on 'Interfaith Discussion' and scroll down to 'create a thread'.
     
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    It reflects the time when the 'Revelation' aspect of Vatican II trickled down to the individual parishes. Majority of Catholics had little familiarity with Scripture, either Testament. Beginning with the Pentateuch the intent was to present the prominence of the Torah in Jewish faith. I was raised a Methodist and questioned why the presenter didn't complete the passage.
     
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    Harel13 Am Yisrael Chai
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    Humbly, it doesn't surprise me. Consider the difference in messaging when part of the passage is brought as opposed to bringing the entire passage: in the first case, "the rabbis" attempting to preserve their political control over the lowly Jews, invent the idea that the man-made law is more important than God. In the second case, God reveals that the law, the Torah, is a clear pipeline to Him. Even if it seems that the connection has been lost, if you keep the Torah, you'll find your way back to God.
     
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    It brings to mind - well, my mind at least, which guarantees little - last week's thetorah.com article on

     
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