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'He did nothing wrong': Family of Texas entrepreneur fatally shot by police say he was defending his

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Stevicus, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. Stevicus

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    'He did nothing wrong': Family of Texas entrepreneur fatally shot by police say he was defending his home (msn.com)

    Another tragedy that should have and could have been avoided.
     
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    #4 Revoltingest, Dec 3, 2022
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    Especially poorly trained trigger happy cops.
     
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    That would be a good opportunity to use a drone.
    No cop could use the excuse "officer safety" to
    kill a civilian.
    But I wonder....will "drone safety" become a thing?

    Back to the video, it appears to me that the cop
    issued the perfunctory "Drop the gun!" solely
    to justify murder.
    1) He didn't identify himself as a cop.
    2) He didn't provide any opportunity to drop the gun.
    3) No attempt to de-escalate.
    It sure looks like a cop who's out hunting humans.

    The cop isn't arrested for the murder.
    He's just on "administrative leave" (vacation).
    Fortunately, the police department will investigate itself.
     
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    I think the gun laws of the US are disastrous, but this specific incident seems to me the result of the actions of a poorly trained, trigger-happy, irresponsible cop rather than the victim's possession of a gun.
     
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    I can see a case made for unarmed drones which can be used for police to safely view and survey a situation - so they can at least get an idea of just what in heck is going on before they go rushing in and opening up with both barrels.

    I agree with the rest of this.
     
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    Wait.....you what?
    You agree with me?
    Are you feeling OK....or just a little dirty?

    Anyway, we all know that the cops will at first claim
    that he acted within department policy. Then they'll
    back off, & say that it was just a mistake.
    Were I on his jury, I don't see room for doubt.
    It was an intentional killing, ie, murder.
     
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    Just another case of a piggly getting too wiggly.
     
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    I've given your post a Winner frubal. I'm guessing you now feel faint and disorientated.
     
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    The irony is that those who fetishize guns and make 2A a personality trait also tend to "back the blue" and hero worship law enforcement.
     
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    Well, of course, I am a logical and rational being, and as such, when presented with logical, well-founded arguments, the only logical choice is to agree.

    [​IMG]

    The cop will probably be retired with a pension, and the city will most likely have to pay out a sizable wrongful death settlement to the family.
     
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    I am speechless, really.
    I will not say anything, this time.
     
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    The cop never says he's there, or that he's a cop. He just shouts "drop the gun" and immediately shoots a man. The man never even knew the cop was there. And didn't threaten him in any way.

    That cop was clearly itching to shoot someone.
     
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    I read one report that the the official police statement was that the officer acted in accordance with their training.
    If true then perhaps the problem is the way they were trained.

    If the police sticks with this then likely the officer will be back on duty. I heard of times the publicly the officer gets sanctioned to take any heat off of the police dept, then later, after things quiet down, they are quietly returned to active duty.
     
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    The standard blue wall claim.
    Corruption runs deep with cops.
    Or he's fired, & then moves to a different parish department.
     
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    He didn't 'fetishize' he bought it for protection which in most cases is a sensible and normal thing.

    Aside from essentially being bushwacked by a peace officer who clearly, has no ability for proper situational awareness.
     
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    Considering the media coverage on this, I'm not sure how easy it will be for them to sweep this under the rug. They may still be faced with a wrongful death lawsuit that the city may have to pay out a large settlement.
     
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