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You can't equate the claim that every mathematician in the world believed the earth was the center of the universe and a clam about a fully predictable model of anything. You are trying to salvage a mistake by qualifications. You and I know very well that is not what his claims stated. He strongly and emphatically stated that all professionals believed in an earth centered universe. It is also obvious (at least by the text YOU supplied) he was claiming that to be true from the oldest of times until the 16th century. We also both know that is not true. In fact the person even says who invented it and when. It was over a thousand years before the date you give above. Mathematicians, philosophers, astrologers, etc... believed in a sun centered universe during the entire period you mention. The statement he made was not about arbitrary models you equated with it, but about belief in an idea. Again you are desperately trying to salvage a mistake by inventing arbitrary criteria not mentioned in the statements themselves. That is exactly what happens every time a person is credited with perfection. Christian recognized that fact from our inception. That is why for your sake you did not hold that position on that text. Men will always fail us.
I am sure you do not "officially". Baha'i as I have stated emphatically have the ability to simply interpret things in any way required to meet a demand. You demand he not make mistakes and will do anything to the Quran and history in order to make that occur. The man decapitated his way across the ANE, he gave the exact description given in the bible for demon possession for his initial revelations, and he himself thought he was possessed, he constantly got biblical history wrong and the mistakes he made are easily traceable to his uncles imperfect biblical knowledge, he killed for revenge, he killed to stop poets from writing unflattering things about him, he got math, science, and biology wrong. He plagiarized gnostic, apocryphal, pagan, and mythological texts that pre-existed Islam. He tortured, killed captives of no threat to him even when he admitted he had no divine instructions to do so. I can go on indefinitely. My advice test, test, and test again before you place perfection in the hands of a human. Even our greatest prophets are admitted to be exactly what they were, faulty men empowered by God, not perfect. Baha'i assumes a burden that it can't meet (even by re-writing other religions texts).
Actually the sun does orbit something. I can't recall what. Almost all things orbit something even if it's a black whole like our entire galaxy does. The point is the sun is doing anything but something in a fixed place. The word fixed dooms almost anything you can say about the sun in the cradle. It isn't fixed.
That is an arbitrary and simplistic standard. Christianity rose in the sciences long after it's appointed time according to your arbitrary criteria. Islam seems to oscillate and is still making halting progress. However the theological would seem a far more rational candidate for what you stated. Islam is not only growing but the rate is accelerating. Christianity adds enough new converts in a year to populate Utah. There exists no evidence, in fact all evidence contradicts unless you haul out an arbitrary micro-scope, for what you stated. It takes a mighty thick and wickedly deceptive lens to find any truth in the text you quoted (or at least the part you did). I truly hate to see it. Your devotion is worthy of a better cause.
It should. If a religion has a marked relevance that means anything then I would expect it to decline after that point. The statement is so ambiguous that I can't say exactly what he meant (neither can you). However the most obvious meaning of what he meant disagrees with reality. Even assigning his words an arbitrary scientific reference does not equate to reality. According to your preferred interpretation Newton, Galileo, and a thousand other Christians who were sciences greats should never have done as they did. Not even mangling your own people's texts will help here.
Is the Baha'i middle east or the Christian west todays civilized cultures? It is always a Christian nation not a Baha'i that is first on the scene to help with natural disasters. It is the Christian US that must mediate all tyrannical lunatics not Baha'i. It is our science and technology that drives the world. Even Israel (which by your interpretation should be technological morons by now) outstrips the entire middle east in most areas of advancement. Why didn't their time end?
And which is a known facts.
99% of the things you wrote has nothing to do with OP. Sorry I won't get into debates that is too off-topic.
You are correct. However the were all responses to the claims you introduced not me. You should have never brought them up if you did not want to stray off course and if you did not want a debate you should have said this quite a piece back. You must account for my over abundance of laziness.
