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Have you ever found a single bug in Islam?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Farrukh, Mar 7, 2014.

  1. Mestemia

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    If it makes you feel better to call me names, feel free.

    The fact of the matter is that the OP is not the least bit interested in anything other than his ability to explain away any "bugs" that are presented to him.

    Now if you are content with circular reasoning being the common sense you prefer, by all means carry on.
     
  2. FearGod

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    You may accuse me of cherry picking but i swear calculations was done by logic and the numbers i got were amazing,you can think of it as a wondrous coincidence.

    What amazed me that such information wasn't claimed by Muslims but by the Christians and Jews as well,even though it is hard for me to believe that humans
    were that tall. :eek:

    Let's use math.

    The born child nowadays is around one cubit, let's say BCN = 1 cubit
    The born child will grow till reaching around 4 cubits at age 18,so
    let's say maximum human length MHL = 4 cubits
    Now assuming that Adam (A) was indeed 60 cubits then lets calculate
    how tall Baby Adam (BA) was

    BCN = MHL
    BA = A

    By calculation we got the unknown which is Baby Adam (BA) = 15 cubits,
    so now we know that Adam should be 15 cubits as a baby.


    Now let's calculate for how many years Adam had to grow,we know that we grow nowadays till around age 18,so let's say Human Maximum Length (HML) = 18 years
    By knowing that the Average Human living (HAL) is around 80 years and Adam Average Living (AAL) = 1000 years,we can find at what age was Adam Maximum Length (AML).

    HML = HAL
    AML = AAL

    So by calculation we know that Adam will grow till age 225.

    We know that human grow to around 4 cubits till around age 18,so we
    can find how much Adam will grow till age 225

    4 = 18 years
    X = 225 years

    So by proportions we got X = 50 cubits

    So Adam should be around 65 cubits and which is 15(Baby Adam) + 50 = 65 cubits

    So it is very close to the 60 cubits,but my question is :

    Should we grow for ever in order to live for eternity. :shrug:
     
  3. Mestemia

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    :facepalm:
     
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    I will be back to this, but first a "baby Adam", I have never ever heard of that, but there are way more problems then that with Adam being 90 feet tall, including gravity.
     
  5. Caladan

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    You are like a guy in a technology fare standing with a manual next to a commodore, preaching and begging us to fix your bugs while the rest of us debate whether Windows 8.1 has solved the sins of Windows 8.
    It's the hardware baby. You're running on a hardware so antique that non of the current software run on it.
     
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  6. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    Commodore? More like an abacus with no beads.
     
  7. Mestemia

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    and here my first thought was "20 or 64....?"
     
  8. Caladan

    Caladan Agnostic Pantheist

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    Well I didn't want to be offensive. For some the truth sets them free... Others can go mad by it. You have to entertain some illusions with certain people, less you'll find them the next day using your technology to argue with you on line on how super-scientific their religion is.
    Oh. Wait. :facepalm:
     
  9. Debater Slayer

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    Trying to shoehorn anthropological literature into science strips away the value of the former in studying its culture and the rigor of the latter. It's just a surefire way to miss the point of both and benefit from neither.
     
  10. FearGod

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    You mean a technology fair,and not fare
     
  11. Caladan

    Caladan Agnostic Pantheist

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    Nice to see that google or spell check are helping you out with English! It's about time you use them!
     
  12. FearGod

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    I know it while in the kinder school,no problem with spelling but fare has far a different meaning than fair.
     
  13. Caladan

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    It's a miracle! Reading the Qur'an has improved your English! :biglaugh:
     
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    Since this tangent about grammar and spelling doesn't really contribute anything of value to the discussion, would you mind responding to the earlier posts that raised concerns about the concept of eternal punishment? I'm rather curious to see your response to those.
     
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    I think it is a tactic to fear humans from doing bad deeds.

    The same as we may do with our children,such as don't play with the electric wire otherwise i'll burn your fingers,so me being serious doesn't mean that i'll really do burn his fingers.

    The right question is do you believe in God or not,if not then why to worry about punishment.
     
  16. Debater Slayer

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    The majority of Islamic scholars agree that the Qur'anic verses about Hell describe a literal state of physical punishment, though, and that's also the belief of most mainstream Muslims.

    And even if we assume that they aren't meant to be taken literally (merely for the sake of argument), your explanation that they're just a tactic to deter people from doing certain things seems to rely pretty heavily on anthropomorphism. Do you really think an omniscient and all-powerful deity would need to use the same tactics humans use for deterrence?

    I think the main issue here is that concepts and ideologies have very real and tangible effects regardless of whether or not they're accurate, especially when they're held and defended by hundreds of millions of people.
     
  17. FearGod

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    I don't think that anyone who accepted Islam or any other beliefs is due to panic of punishment,but it is what they think of it to be the truth.

    Those who don't believe in God has no reason to think of any punishment.
     
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    Not the religion, just some of the people.

    It really depends on how it is interpreted and how serious you take each statement.


    It is not supposed to be used as a history book or science, nor compared to either.


    It is man made so I suspect caution should be used when reading, and there is no reason why anything religious should be error free.
     
  19. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    109 verses of violence at The Quran's Verses of Violence
     
  20. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein I'm not deaf, I'm just a real bad listener
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    Here's a whole website of "bugs" in Islam: WikiIslam

    Have fun. :rolleyes:
     
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