Have any intermediary life forms, particular in the way of apes, developed writing?

[paarsurrey]

The foxp2 gene is found in other animals who see the natural world in similar and different ways as humans. The gene has been selected for by the evolutionary process because it is supportive of socialization with respect to communication. Its development allow humans to communicate and come up with all kinds of ideas including G-d and goddesses. Humans have created all kinds of gods and goddesses with features that also have helped with socialization as well as control. Thus the natural world which is knowable created a species which created the ideas of beings that are unknowable and use these beings for social control. As far as science and religions being friends, there are many religious people who believe and understand evolution and how it created humans who are related to the other animals of the world in varying degrees.

"Humans have created all kinds of gods and goddesses with features that also have helped with socialization as well as control".

Thanks for the information that "foxp2 gene" is also found in other animals.
Have these animals created all kinds of gods and goddesses with features that also have helped with socialization as well as control, as you say? If not, then it is just a guesswork imagined by the Atheism people or non-believers, please. Right, please/

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[Bear Wild]

"Humans have created all kinds of gods and goddesses with features that also have helped with socialization as well as control".

Thanks for the information that "foxp2 gene" is also found in other animals.
Have these animals created all kinds of gods and goddesses with features that also have helped with socialization as well as control, as you say? If not, then it is just a guesswork imagined by the Atheism people or non-believers, please. Right, please/

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Never asked any other animals if the have created any gods or goddesses but interesting idea. We know that humans have and we can see how the gods and goddesses have changed with time from less human to more human with time.

 

[Ouroboros]

My dogs think I'm God.

 

[paarsurrey]

My dogs think I'm God.

While you are not. Right, please?
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[paarsurrey]

Never asked any other animals if the have created any gods or goddesses but interesting idea. We know that humans have and we can see how the gods and goddesses have changed with time from less human to more human with time.

"We know"

What is/are one's source/s of knowledge in this connection? Is it science? If yes, then please quote from the text book of science or from a peer-reviewed article published in a reputed journal of science.
If not, then it must be one's conjecture only. Right, please?

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[Ouroboros]

While you are not. Right, please?
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While we all are. We are one. As a pantheist, I consider myself, my wife, you, people, animals, plants, rocks, all of it as part of God. We all share God within and out.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

And one believes in pixies. Right, please?
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The point is flying right over your head.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

"We know"

What is/are one's source/s of knowledge in this connection?

1. the fact that there are thousands of mutually exlusive gods claimed thoughout history. Meaning that the vast majority of them, at least, HAD to be invented by humans.

2. we have actually observed religions being invented in even only the past 100 years. Scientology comes to mind, among others.

We know FOR A FACT that humans invent gods and religions.

 

[paarsurrey]

The point is flying right over your head.

English is not my first language. One may elaborate one's point without supposition/s, please.

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[paarsurrey]

1. the fact that there are thousands of mutually exlusive gods claimed thoughout history. Meaning that the vast majority of them, at least, HAD to be invented by humans.

2. we have actually observed religions being invented in even only the past 100 years. Scientology comes to mind, among others.

We know FOR A FACT that humans invent gods and religions.

None of them is a Revealed Religion. Please don't consider Atheism/Agnosticism/Skepticism as religions, they don't claim to be religions. Right, please?

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[Ouroboros]

None of them is a Revealed Religion. Please don't consider Atheism/Agnosticism/Skepticism as religions, they don't claim to be religions. Right, please?

Regards

Well, that's funny. In another thread some Christians are arguing that abiogenesis (a scientific field) is a religion. And not to rarely do religious people in USA argue that atheism is a belief and a religion.

 

[paarsurrey]

Well, that's funny. In another thread some Christians are arguing that abiogenesis (a scientific field) is a religion. And not to rarely do religious people in USA argue that atheism is a belief and a religion.

These are ideologies, not strictly speaking Revealed Religions, please.

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[IndigoChild5559]

"Have any intermediary life forms, particular in the way of apes, developed writing?"
Just for information, please.

To the best of my understanding, the oldest possible symbolic figures may be the geometric forms painted on cave walls, and even then we don't know for sure whether they are examples of primitive writing. I cannot think of any other life form, other than homo sapiens sapiens, that has writing, even highly primitive writing. How can they when our closest ape relatives are still learning to talk?

 

[paarsurrey]

To the best of my understanding, the oldest possible symbolic figures may be the geometric forms painted on cave walls, and even then we don't know for sure whether they are examples of primitive writing. I cannot think of any other life form, other than homo sapiens sapiens, that has writing, even highly primitive writing. How can they when our closest ape relatives are still learning to talk?

Yes, it is only human being who had been endowed by ONE- G-D with the gift of speaking natural language/s eloquently, and humans much needed it.

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[55:2]اَلرَّحۡمٰنُ ۙ﴿۲﴾
It is God, the Gracious
[55:3]عَلَّمَ الۡقُرۡاٰنَ ؕ﴿۳﴾
Who has taught the Qur’an.
[55:4]خَلَقَ الۡاِنۡسَانَ ۙ﴿۴﴾
He has created man.
[55:5]عَلَّمَہُ الۡبَیَانَ ﴿۵﴾
He has taught him plain speech.
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 55: Ar-Rahman

 

[England my lionheart]

I didn't say that one should not care about them. Did I, please?
But Atheism doesn't have to say anything about it. Right, please?
They just hide behind Science while Science does not support Atheism. Does it, please?

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[England my lionheart]

None of them is a Revealed Religion. Please don't consider Atheism/Agnosticism/Skepticism as religions, they don't claim to be religions. Right, please?

Regards

How do we know your religion was actually revealed,a human told you it was right?.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Yes, it is only human being who had been endowed by ONE- G-D with the gift of speaking natural language/s eloquently, and humans much needed it.

Humans are the only animals that evolved the ability to vocalize complex sounds. Other animals are certainly able to associate symbols with ideas. For example, gorillas can learn sign language and chimps can learn a board where images mean words.

 

[Bear Wild]

Humans are the only animals that evolved the ability to vocalize complex sounds. Other animals are certainly able to associate symbols with ideas. For example, gorillas can learn sign language and chimps can learn a board where images mean words.

Birds vocalize complex sounds with dialects.

 

[Bear Wild]

Yes, it is only human being who had been endowed by ONE- G-D with the gift of speaking natural language/s eloquently, and humans much needed it.

Regards
____________

[55:2]اَلرَّحۡمٰنُ ۙ﴿۲﴾
It is God, the Gracious
[55:3]عَلَّمَ الۡقُرۡاٰنَ ؕ﴿۳﴾
Who has taught the Qur’an.
[55:4]خَلَقَ الۡاِنۡسَانَ ۙ﴿۴﴾
He has created man.
[55:5]عَلَّمَہُ الۡبَیَانَ ﴿۵﴾
He has taught him plain speech.
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 55: Ar-Rahman

Humans evolved language and writing. God had nothing to do with it.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Birds vocalize complex sounds with dialects.

Their sounds do not symbolize words. the most you get out of them is a very general "warning" and "available" etc.