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Hate of speech and its consequences "crimes"

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Godobeyer, Apr 11, 2019.

  1. Audie

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    White gangs in the USA?
     
  2. Audie

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    That would be quite a change, at this point.
    The US policy in the middle east does not seem to
    be about "winning", for lo, there is no "victory" there.

    The policy appears to be about preventing any
    significant islamic alliance from forming to
    challenge US interests. Iraq got too powerful
    and assertive, and was intent on a lot more, so
    it seems.

    And actually, I'd kind of think anyone who is
    not wanting to be part of such an alliance
    might not mind too much it the US continues
    to succeed.
     
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  3. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli RF stinks now. Really, really bad.

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    The Peckerwoods. Or "Woods".
    Jay Adams:
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    Duane Peters:
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    Yup. Gangs and even the mafia once had a major emphasis on race and ethnic group. Italian vs Irish. White vs Black. Criminals practices(d) their own version of segregation well beyond that of the government. Toss in prison which can see prisoners joining a race based gang for protection such as the Aryan Brotherhood
     
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    I agree, Extremism/Racism is a terrible thing.
     
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    Landon Caeli RF stinks now. Really, really bad.

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    Any white person who gets locked up in Los Angeles County, receives his new name... Wood.
     
  7. Godobeyer

    Godobeyer the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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    Godobeyer the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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    I guess because Trump is racist :p
     
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    Is he? So people on one side keep
    telling eachother. But is there anyone
    on gods green earth against whom
    one could not level that charge?

    I guess your logic is faulty. Whether T is
    or is not does not make someone else a
    member of a white racist gang.

    You speak of "white gangs" - someone can
    pick that up and call "racist". I mean...what if
    you said "yellow gangs"?

    "Racist"
    Its really a terrif bit of calumny. The first one
    to say it gets to be the one with the honour s
    that go with virtue signaling, while getting away
    with some ugly name calling! Even better,
    it is a charge against which nobody can defend
    her / himself.


    I am not exactly a white Anerican, being an Asian
    resident alien. I dont see him as racist.

    And his status as putative "racist" has nothing
    to do with this nonsense about "white
    gangs" and their alleged behaviour.

    People who dont live in the US have some weird
    'n wacky udeas of how it is here.
     
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  11. Godobeyer

    Godobeyer the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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    No it's not difficult, it's very simple,God did not order us to say to others that we hate them.
    In war or His view or punishement or rewarding that's other issue.
     
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    Godobeyer the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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    So that's bring Messiah(pbuh) to Jews (to convince them about his son) ?
    Whatever,I don't think God need to be evil to send his (son) throught blood****
     
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    The Qur'an, however, teaches hatred and violence.

    Sure, there are all manners of attempts at justification. But do you really think that the same can't be said of any other form of hate speech?

    Actually it isn't. As long as there are people willing to take such a text as literal sacred writing, it will by definition be inciting hatred.
     
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    The term hate speech has two words, with the first word hate coming before the second word speech. Yet, Progressives behave in a way, where the term should be called speech hate, since to the left, the buzz words are predefined and come before the emotion of hate. A comedian can be censored even if he is only having fun. without hate; speech before hate.

    For example, the left hates Trump. There is no bones about it. Therefore ,all the angry things that say, toward Trump, start with this emotion of hate. This ends in speech; hate before speech, is hate speech.

    The left does not call this hate speech, since what they say about Trump is not on their list of buzz words. Not on the protected list, alone, does not make it hate speech, even if hate is leading the words. One is not dealing with common sense or reason; cause and affect.

    When I was a boy, the boys, who were part of a larger group of male friends, would poked fun at each other. As friends, we were loosely like a pack of dogs, defining our social male pecking order, through insults, instead of fighting; hazing. You will see this type of behavior on construction sites, if there are only men. They insult each other, for group comedy, and for pecking order. It can be funny as well as brutal. If they fight they lose their job.

    What I noticed was the friendly bully; any big dog, would use speech hate; buzz words, to see if they could induce a reaction in their target. If you were from any given ethnic group, that was usually an easy first volley of verbal shots.

    The way the game worked was, it was up to the victim, to act like he was immune to the insults. While the goal of the friendly bully was to induce an emotional reaction. If he could get an emotional reaction this was considered a sign of weakness and the insults would get worse. On the other hand, if the speech hate had no apparent affect, it would stop, since it was not fun for the bully or his audience. The bully would then shift his focus to another, maybe an easier target. Other times, he may pick on a target, with a quick wit, you would hit back with insults. This was the most fun; battle of two big dogs. Two big dogs would not hold back, while not allowing it to bother each other. This could end in a fight that was broken up.

    The problem today is everyone on the left is trained to act like a victim, This is also true when it comes to speech hate. The left has created a friendly bully paradise. The friendly bully does not even have to be creative, quick witted or spontaneous. He can be slow witted, as long as he takes his insults from the sanctioned book of buzz words. The victims have been pre-conditioned to get emotional and be a target. The friendly bullies of the past, had to be quick witted, and had to constantly find news way to get under the skin. The left has taken the fun out of the gang comedy, and made it a life and death struggle, because the victims are not taught any emotional self defense. Now even little dogs can become friendly bullies.

    The left has created a way to create lots of bottom dog victims. If this was a gang of boys, poking fun at each other, for hazing and pecking order, all the boys on the left, would be emotional wrecks, with endless bullying, since they attract bullies, in terms of the rules of the game. The left wing boys should be trained how to be more like Mr Spock; control your emotions, to stay under the radar, instead of make themselves a target. The left creates problems, and then acts like it is the savior, but one who does not save.

    Part of the conditioning is connected to the rapidly growing therapy industry, that teaches boys to be emotional. This is good for the expanding industry. This also makes it easy to train boys with speech hate.

    It is OK for males to react to human situations with emotions. But it is not healthy for a male to always lead with his emotions, before common sense and reason. In the case of the haze game, common sense means control your emotional output, and the hazing will go way; poker face. Sticks and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me, unless I am conditioned like a trained dog to express emotions, on command, using dog whistles.

    Females have a different set of rules. They only insult each other behind the back. Hate speech is fine, but only if the victim is not present. They usually avoid speech hate in public or parties. The female can only insult in public, in subtle ways, making sure to avoid any of the list of buzz words, that can only be used behind the back. The feminized left male, often uses the female rules, instead of the male rules. Insulting Trump is like gossiping to everyone, behind his back.
     
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    I don't think that disliking someones politics makes them racist, nor does enforcing our border laws.
     
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    Godobeyer the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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    I don't know why you think that Quran teaches voilence !
    However(me too),that's definity misunderstood what Quran said.

    It's like said punishement of bad people is bad too .since is doing bad to them.

    I do believe if 5% of Muslims follow the extremist(terorists) view,the world will be like hell . because Muslims are 1.8 billions and everywhere.
    Most of victimes are Muslims .
     
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    Godobeyer the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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    I met Americans, they consider Trump racist.that's about his acts against Mexico and Muslims
     
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    Ok, so he is rather abrasive, but enforcing our borders by insisting that immigration be done according to our laws legally, is not racist. Not sure about what you are referring to regarding Muslims. Do you have some particular incident in mind? Respectfully.
     
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    The Quran is certainly no more violent than the Old Testament, probably less. Yet not many complain about that.
     
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    And I know Americans who think President Obama was a racist. (For the record, I do not believe that) The word racist once meant something here in America, now it's been reduced to a word used to describe people not liked by an individual.(not to mention, it kills the possibility of useful discussion )
     
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