1. Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Has anyone used science to "just" disprove the bible?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Just_me_Mike, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. Just_me_Mike

    Just_me_Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Messages:
    8,706
    Ratings:
    +468
    Anyone know of any scientist(s) peer reviewed that made it their purpose to disprove the things of the bible, and that was their primary concern in life in regard to science?
     
  2. freethinker44

    freethinker44 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2009
    Messages:
    5,608
    Ratings:
    +1,151
    I can't think of any.

    It kind of just happens that way. We gain new information about something and just as a side effect, old information in the bible turns out to be wrong.
     
  3. Willamena

    Willamena Just me
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2006
    Messages:
    39,672
    Ratings:
    +6,644
    Religion:
    Mystics
    If they did, it wouldn't be science.
     
  4. Baydwin

    Baydwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2009
    Messages:
    1,015
    Ratings:
    +136
    Couldn't have put it much better than that. I can't think of any scientists who make it their business to disprove the Bible either.
     
  5. no-body

    no-body Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2009
    Messages:
    2,656
    Ratings:
    +248
    Not on purpose I don't think. Historians discovering things like David and Goliath and The Exodus and Moses probably never existed because they are based on older myths. They find evidence thousands of years before of these stories in older religions but can find no proof that these people existed during the time periods the bible says.
     
  6. Man of Faith

    Man of Faith Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2009
    Messages:
    3,422
    Ratings:
    +88
    Charles Darwin.
     
  7. Archer

    Archer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2009
    Messages:
    2,283
    Ratings:
    +59
    I do not think he had that intent.
     
  8. The Riley Family

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2008
    Messages:
    33
    Ratings:
    +2
    Actually there are those who use the doctrines of Christianity to disprove the bible. However, just because you can scientifically disprove the doctrine doesn't mean you've disproved the bible, as it's thought it would. It only proves the interpretation is flawed and those who have used the flaw as if it was a genuine representation of the message have been deceived as well. If one would read the message for what it is they would find it already proves its case against the doctrines. This probably isn't done out of fear it may have to be accepted as possible truth and in doing so it would crush their ally.
     
  9. Mestemia

    Mestemia Advocatus Diaboli
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2005
    Messages:
    50,236
    Ratings:
    +14,910
    Religion:
    not a theist
    Wow.
    You just stop showing off your ignorance, can you?
     
  10. freethinker44

    freethinker44 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2009
    Messages:
    5,608
    Ratings:
    +1,151


    Actually Charles Darwin went out of his way in "Origin of the Species" to include god into the theory. Often times he would put forth some idea about natural selection and then end it with something like "in accordance with the will of god". Darwin even put off the release of his findings for years because he knew the church would take offense to it.
     
  11. gnomon

    gnomon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2005
    Messages:
    9,317
    Ratings:
    +1,675
    Religion:
    atheist
    Dont' know of any.

    Not sure what you mean by disprove. Stories from specific books of the Bible have been addressed by scientists. They often make for entertaining programs on the History channel.
     
  12. Caladan

    Caladan Agnostic Pantheist

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2008
    Messages:
    14,985
    Ratings:
    +1,994
    Israel Finkelstein from my department has become somewhat of a superstar around the world in disproving many of the historical details of the bible. he should have at least a couple of best sellers on Amazon for you to look into.
     
  13. sonofskeptish

    sonofskeptish It is what it is

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2009
    Messages:
    825
    Ratings:
    +235
    While Darwin's work disproves the creation myth, he did not set out to disprove the bible. Think of it a collatoral damage.
     
  14. Mestemia

    Mestemia Advocatus Diaboli
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2005
    Messages:
    50,236
    Ratings:
    +14,910
    Religion:
    not a theist
    really?
    How do you make that particular leap?

    Or perhaps you are referring to something he did pertaining to abiogenesis?
     
  15. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2004
    Messages:
    40,755
    Ratings:
    +15,019
    Religion:
    Judaism
    :clap
     
  16. Commoner

    Commoner Headache

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2009
    Messages:
    2,348
    Ratings:
    +584
    You don't think humans and other animals being created in their "current form" is at odds with the concept of evolution?
     
  17. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2004
    Messages:
    40,755
    Ratings:
    +15,019
    Religion:
    Judaism
    :)
    He has popularized a somewhat centrist position while pushing a chronology which is still far from generally accepted. While his most popular work (The Bible Unearthed) is certainly readable and entertaining, his major scientific contrubution to the field of Syro-Palestinian archaeology was his statistical work demonstrating a gradual evolution (ethnogenesis) of Israel in the highlands, effectively debunking the "conquest model" presented in the Bible. Still, more reflective of the current consensus would be the work of folks like Amihai Mazar.
     
  18. Mestemia

    Mestemia Advocatus Diaboli
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2005
    Messages:
    50,236
    Ratings:
    +14,910
    Religion:
    not a theist
    AH.
    Now the conditional modifiers are coming out of the wood work...
     
  19. Commoner

    Commoner Headache

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2009
    Messages:
    2,348
    Ratings:
    +584
    I think that in the case of the particular holy book it's pretty much an all-or-nothing proposition. :)
     
  20. Mestemia

    Mestemia Advocatus Diaboli
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2005
    Messages:
    50,236
    Ratings:
    +14,910
    Religion:
    not a theist
    Perhaps for those who take the Bible literally.
    But what about all the creation myths that do not rely upon literal translations?

    I wonder what the majority of Christians actually believe?

    And even if the part about "humans and other animals being created in their "current form"" is debunked, it is no way proves that creation did not happen.
     
Loading...