Hammer and sickle?

[Deo Vindice]

So the hammer and sickle of communism is supposed represent factory workers and farmers, but the vast majority of them are conservative christians, so how do the dems expect America to eventually succumb to the socialist/atheist agenda? You can fake votes but you can't fake actual labor and production.

 

[Revoltingest]

Huh?

 

[Deo Vindice]

Huh?

I can explain further if you tell me what part confused you.

 

[Revoltingest]

...what part confused you.

All of it.
Simple claim you wish to debate, eh.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

So the hammer and sickle of communism is supposed represent factory workers and farmers, but the vast majority of them are conservative christians, so how do the dems expect America to eventually succumb to the socialist/atheist agenda? You can fake votes but you can't fake actual labor and production.

I grew up not far from the then Berlin Wall (2-hour trip from NL). When crossing over once for amusement, it struck us how servile they were to even the imagery of hammer and sickle. Decades of indoctrination will do that, but what astounded us is how they treated us as aliens.

 

[Deo Vindice]

All of it.
Simple claim you wish to debate, eh.

So you're asking why conservative christians aren't receptive to an anti-capitalist and anti-god movement? People don't change their hearts to coincide with change in law.

 

[Regiomontanus]

So the hammer and sickle of communism is supposed represent factory workers and farmers, but the vast majority of them are conservative christians, so how do the dems expect America to eventually succumb to the socialist/atheist agenda? You can fake votes but you can't fake actual labor and production.

How does a socialist/Christian like me fit in?

 

[Revoltingest]

So you're asking why conservative christians aren't receptive to an anti-capitalist and anti-god movement? People don't change their hearts to coincide with change in law.

I'm just asking for clarity on the points you
wish to debate (given the forum chosen).

 

[Deo Vindice]

How does a socialist/Christian like me fit in?

Stealing is a sin.

 

[JustGeorge]

I've known a lot of factory workers. Only one of them is a Christian.

 

[Regiomontanus]

Stealing is a sin.

How is a system where the workers own/control the means of production stealing? The first Christian communities were communist by the way.

 

[sun rise]

Stealing is a sin.

Capitalism is stealing from the poor and giving to the rich.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

Capitalism is stealing from the poor and giving to the rich.

Please take a look at "Four Futures: Life Beyond Capitalism" by Peter Frase [Verso Press 2016]

 

[sun rise]

Please take a look at "Four Futures: Life Beyond Capitalism" by Peter Frase [Verso Press 2016]

Note: Searching by the author's name I found it's "Four Futures: Life After Capitalism"

 

[Revoltingest]

How is a system where the workers own/control the means of production stealing?

They take it from the owners.

The first Christian communities were communist by the way.

Yet another good reason to avoid communism.
Those goatherds spawned a legacy of conquest,
oppression, slavery, & ignorance.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

Note: Searching by the author's name I found it's "Four Futures: Life After Capitalism"

Thanks for correcting me. I don't always think "rote".

 

[Revoltingest]

Capitalism is stealing from the poor and giving to the rich.

It's free economic association.
You favor a system that prevents this, with government
(aka "the people") controlling all economic activity.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

How does a socialist/Christian like me fit in?

You already do fit in, in the global scheme of things. Perhaps more so for being Socialist than for being Christian. But don't feel marginalised.

 

[Lyndon]

I think the OPs ridiculous premise is that Democrats are Communists when in fact Communists in America only make up less than 1% of the population.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

I think the OPs ridiculous premise is that Democrats are Communists when in fact Communists in America only make up less than 1% of the population.

So hilarious then how the McCarthy inquisitions even gained footing. We all know those who were vilified.