Halal & Kosher meat must be banned and stunning the animal before slaughter must be mandatory India

[Subhankar Zac]

India is the country of 3 Dharmic faiths and philosophies that often strictly promotes a vegetarian diet. The concept of AHIMSA, That predates modern Hinduism and Buddhism, against animals often made it impure for one to consume meat or eggs (Except Kshatriya clans and a few others)
Many Hindus these days consume meat based on their personal sect, tradition, religion and culture. Still many remain largely vegetarian.
Buddhism and Jainism are known for their strict bans on animal slaughter. Jainism being the most non violent philosophy in the world, keep away many food items including potatoes and opinions.
But in this day and age, it would be impossible and unfair to compel others to stick to a vegan or vegetarian diet.
So, I hope that the government would come up with a law that would penalize butchers who would for not stunning the animals before slaughter.
And especially ban barbaric forms of meat consumption such as halal and Kosher.

ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY, PENALIZE ANIMAL SACRIFICE IN TEMPLES.
Some Hindu religions still practices such [[*staff edit**] methods that isn't suited to developing nation.

Even though I personally wouldn't eat beef still it's not my right to prescribe the diet of others. So, cattle slaughter could be permitted but by stunning them before hand.
I feel grossly uncomfortable eating meat, mainly knowing how it was slaughtered.
Even though India has a population of 14.2% Muslims, still halal and other forms of slaughter that requires the animal to die in such a pitiful state, shouldn't be accepted in India along with any form of animal killing in such manner.

 

[Terese]

Are you saying halal meat was obtained in a different fashion than of regular meat?

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Are you saying halal meat was obtained in a different fashion than of regular meat?

Halal and Kosher are barbaric forms of meat preparation.
The artery near the throat is slit open and the animal is kept alive in pain till all the blood drains out of it. Often it's hunged upside down in India to get all the blood out quicker

Only in Australia as far as I know, stunned halal meat is found.

 

[Terese]

Halal and Kosher are barbaric forms of meat preparation.
The artery near the throat is slit open and the animal is kept alive in pain till all the blood drains out of it. Often it's hunged upside down in India to get all the blood out quicker

Only in Australia as far as I know, stunned halal meat is found.

That is evil.

 

[Tomorrows_Child]

Halal and Kosher are barbaric forms of meat preparation.
The artery near the throat is slit open and the animal is kept alive in pain till all the blood drains out of it. Often it's hunged upside down in India to get all the blood out quicker

Only in Australia as far as I know, stunned halal meat is found.

Once the carotid artery, jugular vein and the windpipe is cut, in a single cut from a large, sharp knife, the animal dies instantaneously. The carotid artery leads to brain death and no pain can be felt and the cutting of the windpipe leads to a drop in oxygen consumption. As the blood drains out (which is healthier for human consumption) the animal is already dead. It can no longer feel or know what is happening. Of course, understanding this requires a background in human anatomy and physiology but some research into the structure and function of the carotid artery and so on can be established via google.

Now, of course, as a Hindu, you would dislike the entirety of meat slaughter and that is your right to do so but you can not ban others from eating something which is perfectly legal.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Once the carotid artery, jugular vein and the windpipe is cut, in a single cut from a large, sharp knife, the animal dies instantaneously. The carotid artery leads to brain death and no pain can be felt and the cutting of the windpipe leads to a drop in oxygen consumption. As the blood drains out (which is healthier for human consumption) the animal is already dead. It can no longer feel or know what is happening. Of course, understanding this requires a background in human anatomy and physiology but some research into the structure and function of the carotid artery and so on can be established via google.

Now, of course, as a Hindu, you would dislike the entirety of meat slaughter and that is your right to do so but you can not ban others from eating something which is perfectly legal.

Why don't you share the link to your source then?

Is hypocrisy embedded in Islam or something?
No, we don't! Actually we don't!
Will Saudi provide pork and alcohol? Will UAE legalize LGBT laws? Will said I let Hindus celebrate openly in public?
Islamic nations have no minority rights but minority Muslims want special provisions for themselves.
Also, understand the difference between Hinduism, buddhism and Taoism if you don't believe that you'll be sent to hell for googling other religions

India shouldn't have to let Muslims and others eat what they wish. It's their comparative tolerance. And unless Saudi is making pork, gay marriage, atheism and alcohol legal, try not to ask for rights for other Muslims.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Once the carotid artery, jugular vein and the windpipe is cut, in a single cut from a large, sharp knife, the animal dies instantaneously.

'Fraid not. Rather, they do feel the cut, they are fully alert, and terrified as they slip into unconsciousness before dying.

 

[rosends]

'Fraid not. Rather, they do feel the cut, they are fully alert, and terrified as they slip into unconsciousness before dying.

There is some research which would argue with your position:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/222248/jewish/Is-Shechita-Humane.htm

In case the link doesn't work, the final statement of the web page is

"Dr. Stuart Rosen MA, MD, FRCP, Faculty of Medicine, Imperial College, London, in a recent paper, "Physiological Insights Into Shechita," published in The Veterinary Record (June 12, 2004 Vol. 154) discusses the behavioral responses of animals to shechita and the neurophysiologic studies relevant to the assessment of pain, and concludes that:

"shechita is a painless and humane method of animal slaughter."
"

 

[Tomorrows_Child]

There is some research which would argue with your position:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/222248/jewish/Is-Shechita-Humane.htm

In case the link doesn't work, the final statement of the web page is

"Dr. Stuart Rosen MA, MD, FRCP, Faculty of Medicine, Imperial College, London, in a recent paper, "Physiological Insights Into Shechita," published in The Veterinary Record (June 12, 2004 Vol. 154) discusses the behavioral responses of animals to shechita and the neurophysiologic studies relevant to the assessment of pain, and concludes that:

"shechita is a painless and humane method of animal slaughter."
"

There is also another study done by the university of hamburg (I believe, may have the wrong name but it was published in a newspaper last year) which showed that neurologically, halal slaughter is less harmful than normal slaughter.

 

[AsianActivist]

Here's a simple question:

Does Saudi Arabia allow for Hindus to practice their faith openly and freely? NO!

India on the other hand allows for you to believe what you want. However as a majority Hindu country they should have the right to determine their own laws. India has made enough concessions to Islam already.

Halal slaughter should be banned everywhere, not just in India.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

There is also another study done by the university of hamburg (I believe, may have the wrong name but it was published in a newspaper last year) which showed that neurologically, halal slaughter is less harmful than normal slaughter.

False statements for personal Islamic bias as most in Europe are doing today, after what occured in France and Belgium.
It is the most inhumane way to kill anyone and those who doubt it can try it in themselves.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY, PENALIZE ANIMAL SACRIFICE IN TEMPLES.
Some Hindu religions still practices such barbaric methods that isn't suited to developing nation.

So, some-one who can't make up his mind whether he's a Hindu, a Buddhist, or a Taoist (sic) thinks he has the right to tell real Hindus that they can't offer goats to Kali!

I'd say a developed nation is one which recognises people's right to practice their religion, as we do in Europe and the Americas. Sadly some Indian Hindus are as intolerant as Muslims these days.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Why should animal sacrifice be banned? There's nothing wrong with it as long as they are killed by decapitation from a single stroke to the neck with a very sharp blade. As long as you eat it afterwards or otherwise make use of the body, there should be no problem.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

So, some-one who can't make up his mind whether he's a Hindu, a Buddhist, or a Taoist (sic) thinks he has the right to tell real Hindus that they can't offer goats to Kali!

I'd say a developed nation is one which recognises people's right to practice their religion, as we do in Europe and the Americas. Sadly some Indian Hindus are as intolerant as Muslims these days.

So, someone who thinks Hinduism as s unified single religion with a single dogma and like the Abrahamic God, lectures people of religion selection?
100 years back, some Bengal, assamese and tripura temples also practiced human sacrifice.
In Nepal in rare occasions it's still there.
Let's start with that too.

If you want everyone to practice their faith freely, would you be willing to kill the lower caste men who married upper caste women as the Manusmriti states? Since you consider Hinduism to be a single religion with a single God and book.
If Muslims, Jews and Christians can't kill Hindus, rape their daughters and take their land, Hindus can't kill other lives for their barbaric practices either.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Why should animal sacrifice be banned? There's nothing wrong with it as long as they are killed by decapitation from a single stroke to the neck with a very sharp blade. As long as you eat it afterwards or otherwise use of the body, there should be no problem.

I wonder if you'd be comfortable if the animal was you.
If not, then you know why.
It's another thing to kill to eat, but practice is such ways... No.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Only in Australia as far as I know, stunned halal meat is found.

"Contrary to what many assume, an estimated 88% of animals killed by halal methods in Britain are stunned before slaughter"
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/08/what-does-halal-method-animal-slaughter-involve

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I wonder if you'd be comfortable if the animal was you.

That's much more compassionate than what you find out in the wild, or even with housecats.

It's another thing to kill to eat, but practice is such ways... No.

Unless you are actually are trying to say that vegetarianism should be mandated for all by effectively banning slaughter, how exactly do you think the animal should be slaughtered so that people who eat meat can get their meat?

 

[Subhankar Zac]

That's much more compassionate than what you find out in the wild, or even with housecats.

Unless you are actually are trying to say that vegetarianism should be mandated for all by effectively banning slaughter, how exactly do you think the animal should be slaughtered so that people who eat meat can get their meat?

In that case, no reason will change your mind.

All bhogas on theistic Hinduism are vegetarian, even of Kali.
Non vegetarian bhogas to any Hindu deities are considered evil.
So, are we sure that Hindus are actually going to consume buffalo meat from within a temple?
I've yet to come across a Hindu temple that allows non vegetarian food inside tge temple premises.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

"Contrary to what many assume, an estimated 88% of animals killed by halal methods in Britain are stunned before slaughter"
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/08/what-does-halal-method-animal-slaughter-involve

As long as the animal is stunned, I've no issue for it going halal or kosher.

 

[Jabar]

What????????