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Guliani will be the fall guy...

Jose Fly

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
You think Giuliani is willing to go to prison to protect Trump? Or I wonder if he'll seek a deal with Democrats, where he gets immunity in exchange for truthful testimony?
 
sealchan

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Jose Fly said:
You think Giuliani is willing to go to prison to protect Trump? Or I wonder if he'll seek a deal with Democrats, where he gets immunity in exchange for truthful testimony?
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Remember that Trump holds the get out of jail free card...or does he? I suppose as long as Guliani thinks that Republicans won't remove him from office, he might be safe.
 
Jose Fly

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
sealchan said:
Remember that Trump holds the get out of jail free card...or does he? I suppose as long as Guliani thinks that Republicans won't remove him from office, he might be safe.
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If Giuliani goes to prison rather than testify, and then Trump pardons him (and Stone and Manafort and Flynn).....I....we.....I have no idea what'll happen.
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
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Yes I think he's being set up to be the fall guy. Beyond that, who knows. Will he take the fall or believe Trump will pardon him? Will Trump pardon him?

Care to bet?
 
sealchan

sealchan

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Jose Fly said:
If Giuliani goes to prison rather than testify, and then Trump pardons him (and Stone and Manafort and Flynn).....I....we.....I have no idea what'll happen.
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Well excepting those who drink the Kool-Aid from the conservative media's water cooler these days...most people can see bad character when it overwhelmingly presents itself. I think enough of the independents are going to prefer anyone but Trump to make this next election the end of this fiasco. But what if Giuliani is still tied up in court by then? Too late for a pardon. But he can't plead guilty! Is there a quick way to get through a trial and Trump still be okay to pardon him?
 
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Jose Fly

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
sealchan said:
Well accepting those who drink the Kool-Aid from the conservative media's water cooler these days...most people can see bad character when it overwhelmingly presents itself. I think enough of the independents are going to prefer anyone but Trump to make this next election the end of this fiasco. But what if Giuliani is still tied up in court by then? Too late for a pardon. But he can't plead guilty! Is there a quick way to get through a trial and Trump still be okay to pardon him?
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Who knows? I guess this is what the country gets for electing a reality show President.

Tune in tomorrow! :rolleyes:
 
Ouroboros

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Yes. Ever since this whole debacle started and things started to point to Giuliani, it's been in my mind that he'll go down while the almighty prez Trump will still hang around.
 
Nakosis

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
sealchan said:
A CNN commentator today indicates that Republican Representative Castor asked a question that suggests that the groundwork is being laid to make Guliani to be the bad guy in this whole bribery effort.

Watch through to end of video...
King: Sondland has guaranteed Trump's impeachment - CNN Video

The question for this thread...will that work? And for whom?
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I suppose we will find out if Giuliani is smart enough to keep himself out of jail.
 
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Terry Sampson

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sealchan said:
A CNN commentator today indicates that Republican Representative Castor asked a question that suggests that the groundwork is being laid to make Guliani to be the bad guy in this whole bribery effort.
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a. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
b. Personally, I doubt that Giuliani was principally, much less solely, responsible for Trump's bribery/extortion/quid pro quo scheme; but he's definitely one of the key players.
 
sealchan

sealchan

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LuisDantas said:
I don't think that it can work. It is just too obvious that Giuliani is a follower, not a mover.
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Ya, its one of those self-contradictory arguments that the Republicans keep coming up with for a guy who was going to drain the swamp and who is Mr. Large N. In-Charge...but he doesn't know these people...
 
idav

idav

Being
Premium Member
sealchan said:
A CNN commentator today indicates that Republican Representative Castor asked a question that suggests that the groundwork is being laid to make Guliani to be the bad guy in this whole bribery effort.

Watch through to end of video...
King: Sondland has guaranteed Trump's impeachment - CNN Video

The question for this thread...will that work? And for whom?
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Stupid scheme probably was Giuliani's idea. Even if it was, everyone involved with a crime is culpable though the US president has a lot of leverage and power over those working for him. People don't agree with Trump they get fired
 
lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
sealchan said:
A CNN commentator today indicates that Republican Representative Castor asked a question that suggests that the groundwork is being laid to make Guliani to be the bad guy in this whole bribery effort.

Watch through to end of video...
King: Sondland has guaranteed Trump's impeachment - CNN Video

The question for this thread...will that work? And for whom?
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It's going to depend on Rudy, I think. It could definitely work if he wants it to.
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
sealchan said:
Well excepting those who drink the Kool-Aid from the conservative media's water cooler these days...most people can see bad character when it overwhelmingly presents itself. I think enough of the independents are going to prefer anyone but Trump to make this next election the end of this fiasco. But what if Giuliani is still tied up in court by then? Too late for a pardon. But he can't plead guilty! Is there a quick way to get through a trial and Trump still be okay to pardon him?
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Evangelicalhumanist said:
Has Trump pardoned Cohen?
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What has that got to do with anything? Nothing as far as I can see. He will do what he will do if Guiliani is convicted and he's still POTUS. Or do you assert he has to pardon everyone or no one?
 
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