Greece in Europe?

[Valjean]

Ancient Europe is the balkan peninsula.

Who decided this? By what metric?

Modern europe is what they call now, they mix balkans with saxons.

Huh? The Balkans is a region, in Europe. The Saxons are a people.

 

[Valjean]

Eh… Because Greece is a member of the EU. In that sense, it’s currently more European than the U.K.

Club membership doesn't define geographic designation. If Australia or South America joined the European union, would they become part of Europe?

 

[exchemist]

Ha! Greeks are the worst kind of people. They are crypto-nazis, they would do anything the Germans would tell them to do. It's a suffocating place to live.

Well, Golden Dawn is, but that's hardly representative.

By all accounts there is a corruption problem, and I can imagine that would make life suffocating. I found that business of the head of government statistics being put on trial for producing accurate figures pretty shocking.

 

[Augustus]

What objections? The dna speaks. Greeks aren't goths, celtics, saxons, vikings etc. They are middle easterners, syrians, egyptians, etc

You are confusing yourself.

Various populations in the Eastern Mediterranean (many Greeks, Cypriots, Turks, Syrians, Jews, etc.) share a common genetic lineage (that originated in the Caucasus not the “Middle East”).

This is distinct from both Northern Europeans and Arab Middle Easterners.

Both Europe and the Middle East are political terms, and neither reflects the traditional civilisation which was Mediterranean not European/Middle Eastern.

Greece is Europe because it wasn’t culturally Arabised like Syria or Turkicised like Turkey.

 

[Ponder This]

Sure.

I'd like to refine that map a little bit...

As you can see, most of Greece does share the Eurasia Plate. However, much of Greece has its own plate - not Eurasia - not Anatolia - not Africa - not Arabian. Rather, it exists on the Aegean Sea Plate.

I would thus like to make the argument that everyone in the thread that has so far fallen to the False Dichotomy is wrong and Greece is not a part of the Middle East or a part of Europe.
They are Aegean.
And, yes, Athens is located on the Aegean Sea Plate.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What objections? The dna speaks. Greeks aren't goths, celtics, saxons, vikings etc. They are middle easterners, syrians, egyptians, etc

No, Greece is not any of those things either. One time in Greece's history they conquered all of those lands so they left an impression. But like it or not Greece is European.

Have you considered physically moving your country?

 

[JIMMY12345]

Because it's geographically and culturally not the Middle East.

Its a bit like Russia.The capital and culture is European but it falls in Asia geographically for the most part

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Its a bit like Russia.The capital and culture is European but it falls in Asia geographically for the most part

Yeah. India is another. Technically it's considered Asian but culturally it's apart from Asian countries and it has its own very ancient history and culture.

 

[Ponder This]

Yeah. India is another. Technically it's considered Asian but culturally it's apart from Asian countries and it has its own very ancient history and culture.

Indeed, India sits upon its own tectonic plate.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What objections? The dna speaks. Greeks aren't goths, celtics, saxons, vikings etc. They are middle easterners, syrians, egyptians, etc

They are Indo-European, and originally stem from ancient groups like the Minoans and Mycenaeans. Yes, there has been some genetic admixture because of centuries of various conquerors and so on, just as the Greeks and Romans left behind some of their genes in the Middle East. But they're still European, just as Italians, Spanish, Armenians, Romanians, etc. are all Europeans with Indo-European languages and stem ultimately from the same people.

The Indo-European cultural and linguistic family includes multiple other branches than just Germanic. Just because they're not Germanic, doesn't mean they're not European. That's misguided Nordicist thinking.

And aren't you Greek and worship the Greek gods? You seem to hate Greeks. You're confusing.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Club membership doesn't define geographic designation. If Australia or South America joined the European union, would they become part of Europe?

We participate in Eurovision, so I kinda thought we already were.