Jollybear
Hey
Sure they could, but the subject evolves into other issues and that was apart of my opening thread as i keep repeating to you
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Great pyramids of egypt
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Sure they could, but the subject evolves into other issues and that was apart of my opening thread as i keep repeating to you
Prometheus85
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It’s not going to say that exactly. It’s just to show you
Ancient Egyptians Wrote Down Why And How The Pyramids Were Built
Prometheus85
Active Member
Huh? That doesn’t answer my question
gnostic
The Lost One
I have read Enki and Ninmah before.
Jollybear
Hey
Whats your thoughts on it?
By what I know, there was no body found, so the evidence for your claim is quite nonexistent.
Yet, the “imbecile” has stronger arguments than you have. It must feel bad to lose to an “imbecile”.
Jollybear
Hey
If the egyptians didnt say that "exactly", then how did they say they, not the gods did it all, exactly?
And how am i being intellectually dishonest?
gnostic
The Lost One
It is a myth, a traditional narrative.
It doesn't prove that gods, angels or aliens were ACTUALLY responsible for building or creating anything, because there are no evidences they ACTUALLY EXISTING.
You do understand the concept of myth, allegory and parable, don't you?
They (myth, allegory and parable) may teach you some inner truths, but they themselves are not historical accounts of ACTUAL EVENTS. All traditions, whether it be religious in nature or not, are never considered historical or reliable.
The only things you can do with traditional narratives, in the history-department, is to date any available sources, like their the origin of composition or the materials they were on (eg the papers, parchment, papyrus scrolls, clay tablets, the inscriptions on walls, coffins or sarcophagus, woods, tombstone, stelae, etc).
Prometheus85
Active Member
Obviously you didn’t care to read the proof that I provided for you that detail how and why the Egyptians build the pyramids. So that brings me to the conclusion that no matter what I say or proof that i provide your not going to accept it. You don’t want to have a honest dabate.
Jollybear
Hey
Yes, i understand when literature displays itself as parable and when it speaks as in the form of history.
The document in question from the sumarians does not come across as a parable, but comes across as there record of what took place.
They themselves do not call it a parable, allegory or myth at all. If they really believed it was a myth, why did they not hint that in there record?
gnostic
The Lost One
You do realise that you have just insulted a fellow member.
You are still relatively new member, and I should warn you that you shouldn't insult other forum members, like what you just have done.
What I said, is not directed at you, but your source, Lennart Möller, who is not a member of this forum.
His book - The Exodus Case, have already been critically reviewed by archaeologists and historians, including a fellow-Swede, Martin Rundkvist, but where as Moller isn't an archaeologist, Rundkvist is one by profession.
The Exodus Case, is only a book, that speculate his subject, he hasn't been inside in any of the pyramids, doing serious research and methodological investigation on the fields.
He also speculate on the "possible" routes, including the location of the mountain where Moses received the Ten Commandment, Jabal al-Lawz, Saudi Arabia. Another person who reviewed his book, a Christian, criticized Moller's identifications of locations (including Jabal al-Lawz), not only fill with errors, but also for never being to any places Moller mentioned.
Moller provide no evidences for any of the assertions in his book, just his speculative views. Anyone can do what he did, but without evidences, he has been rightly ridicules.
Fact is based on evidence, that anyone can test, examine or verify. Fact is assertion, no matter how logical or illogical these are.
And Moller is a doctor, a medical doctor, and NOT a geographer, historian or archaeologist. He doesn't work in the field of archaeology or geography, so how can any possibly take him serious. It would be like a fishermen or farmer giving advice to people on how to treat cancer.
Moller should stick with medicine and treatment of cancer, not write a book in the field that he has no specialisation in, that is not worth anyone's money.
1213, do you always take what people write in the books, as "facts"?
Jollybear
Hey
Actually i did read the intro part you told me to. Yes i did. And i did not find any qoutes from the ancient egyptians themselves saying there gods did not help them no way no how.
Why dont you give me the exact qoute from the book. Im not reading the whole book, im sorry.
So, how am i dishonest? Im dishonest because im taking a different position here?
Arent you breaking the rules by calling me dishonest?
Not only are you wrong about me being dishonest, but your breaking the rules.
Prometheus85
Active Member
Again your not going to find a qoute that says the Egyptians said thier gods did not help them build the pyramids. I said that because that’s what u believe apparently. The ancient Egyptian text I sent you, were for u to see there weren’t any gods, or aliens Involved. The texts were reserved for the soul of the deceased pharaoh by his scribes and priests and were a series of spells and incantations designed to free the soul of the pharaoh from the body and help it ascend toward the heavens. Over two hundred gods and goddesses are mentioned in the Pyramid Texts from the most famous (such as Osiris and Isis) to lesser known deities. These allusions, as with all of the inscriptions, were intended to help the soul of the pharaoh in his transition from earthly life to the afterlife (known as the Field of Reeds) where he would live eternally.
Prometheus85
Active Member
How am I breaking the rules? Lol
Prometheus85
Active Member
You are being intellectually dishonest. Because you said u read the introduction. If you read the introduction then u would know what that the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids and not aliens or gods or angels or spirits and you would no what they bulit them for. But yet you still continue to ask questions. Also u ask for proof, I gave u proof and you said your not reading that proof lol
Jollybear
Hey
Ok, so if that is not said, how then is what you gave me proof of what you say?
Jollybear
Hey
By attacking me via calling me dishonest rather then just address the content of what i say.
Jollybear
Hey
So you know more then me whether i read the into?
And im the dishonest one?
The intro dont say the egyptians built by there own hands alone the pyramids.
If you think it does, qoute which part and reference the page number.
Prometheus85
Active Member
You said your not reading the rest of the anicent Egyptian Texts I provided you, instead u want me to read the rest for you...WHAT!? U ask for proof, I gave it you. Your to lazy to read it and learn for yourself, which makes me believe you don’t want to have an honest debate.
Jollybear
Hey
Im not reading the whole book, as i already told you. If you read the whole book, then you give me the exact reference. You said its in the intro, well, i read the intro and im being honest that i did. I dont see what your saying i should see.
So, qoute it and reference the page please.