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Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by rrobs, Nov 25, 2020.

  1. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    I read the bible as written, not interpreted to suite my ego
     
  2. ChristineM

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    What new evidence, please be specific with citations.

    Ive been on the Christian bandwagon and jumped off because yes, it was very bad and from what i see on there pages and elsewhere, nothing has changed. But hey, it's religion, i don't expect it to change. Only to dis progress because its seen as a threat
     
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    I'll bet that's what the ancient Babylonians thought when talking about their planetary gods.
     
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    Where was I off with Proverbs? Specifics, if you don't mind.
     
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    There was no Garden of Eden, at no time were there ever only two people. There was no flood of Noah. That story fails on many levels. The Exodus as portrayed in the Bible did not occur either. That is a good start.
     
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    Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21. Those are things I was ignorant of until I saw them.

    Glad to hear you were a Christian. Actually it would be better stated that you are a Christian.

    1Pet 1:23,

    Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
    The first seed came from your mom and dad. It is corruptible, hence you will die. The new birth, on the other hand is incorruptible, hence you have everlasting life in the new earth to come. Notice that the word "incorruptible" is not followed by the word "seed" as "corruptible" is in the first part. That is a legitimate and precise usage of a figure of speech, namely an ellipsis. As you probably know, figures of speech are used to emphasize. In other words, God wants to emphasize your everlasting life. What's so bad about that?
     
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    Sounds like you were there to witness the beginning. Surely, that can't be what you are saying, so how do you know?
     
  9. ChristineM

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    They are not evidence but stories in the bible


    No, of course christianity wont release my name from their records, so they can keep their numbers up. But in no way could i be considered christian. Given the pain, mayhem and death i have seen christians administer i would consider it an insult to be considered one. You don't want to insult me do you?
     
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    Thank you for your ^above ^ posting.
    Because of God's ' energy ' E-MC2 is why God as Creator has the Great Power and the Mighty Strength to create the visible material realm of creation.
    Since we are created from His dynamic energy then God has the right to exercise regulation over His creation (us). -Isaiah 45:18; Isaiah 45:12
    Having control in a loving way teaching us how to benefit oneself.
     
  11. ChristineM

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    You don't understand the 1st law of thermodynamics at all do you?
     
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    Or, what you say members of 'Christendom' ( so-called Christians ) administer...... Remember what Jesus said about those fake 'weed/tares' Christians.
    And that Jesus' forewarned us that MANY would come ' in his name' but prove false - Matthew 7:21-23.
    Even if 'Christendom' won't release names..... we find God can remove names from His Book of Life - Exodus 32:33; Revelation 3:5; Revelation 20:15

    (Side note: when I wrote my former religion to remove my name (just my name) from their records, well they did, but also removed the whole family records including the cemetery deed. Thankfully I had the 1913 deed and the undertaker could Not understand why there was No family record and No record of the cemetery deed. He reassured me that his then made deed copy would go on file at the funeral home )
     
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    Energy can't be created from nothing, so when a Baptist told me that God created the universe from nothing I said that is Not what the Bible teaches.
    God supplied His Power and Strength to create the visible material realm of existence. - Isaiah 40:26
     
  14. ChristineM

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    Actually void is nothing
     
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    in the Hebrew Bible at Genesis 1:1 uses the word ' empty ' when Earth was empty ( empty or void of inhabitable life on Earth at that beginning stage )
    P.S. oops, should read Genesis 1:1-2.
     
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  16. ChristineM

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    Where does the bible say this
     
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    Try Genesis 1:2
     
  18. ChristineM

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    What about 1:1
     
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    Wrong, wrong, wrong. Please notice Genesis 1:16 because there we find the word MADE and Not the word: CREATE.

    Day One light was CREATED. See Genesis 1:3, then on Day Four God MADE the 'already created' light do something.
    In other words He 'made' the 'created' light to rule; rule over day and night - Genesis 1:18

    Kind of like an adult can procreate a child then have the existing child be MADE to sit in a chair, MADE to go to school, etc.
     
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    Gods' spirit is good (Psalms 143:10) and it was God who created, God is Creator -Revelation 4:11.
     
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