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GOP nightmare is here: Sanders Is Budget Chair

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by sun rise, Jan 19, 2021.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Not everyone can or wants to be a TA/TF.
    Not everyone gets research money.
     
  2. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    You missed my point perhaps because I did not spell it out in 100% clarity. The point is that not paying for college does not mean not having some work. In other words, if you want to avoid tuition, here's a list of jobs you can do instead. And to avoid ambiguity, of course scholarships are OK by me as another route to avoid paying for college.
     
  3. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    I worked all thru school...machinist, eg, gym security, dog census
    taker, landscaper. It was paid work here & there. No free tuition.
    Earning money is a good way to go.
     
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  4. icehorse

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    When a debater makes a mistake it's no biggie. Until they double down. This is not hubris, it's simply responding to posts YOU made.

    Pot and kettle.

    You usually are, in my experience. In this case, not so much.

    I don't think that. Get your own house in order, before advising others.

    To call out a fallacy argument is simply a part of debate. I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking an argument. Get off your sanctimonious soapbox.
     
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  5. Revoltingest

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    This is repetitive.
    I've nothing to add.
     
  6. Thief

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    just saw a pic of bernie ......in a chair.....all by himself
     
  7. Saint Frankenstein

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    How is this a "nightmare"? Sanders, during both the 2016 and 2020 Dem primaries, acted like an outsider, a renegade, but he quickly gave in when it was declared he lost both elections. Each time, he quickly acquiescenced to the DNC's agenda. He's just another fake, otherwise he never would've gotten a seat at the table. He'll probably be dead soon, anyway.
     
  8. Sunstone

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    She brings with her a track record of nothing but positive accomplishments. Or so she tells us.
     
  9. Sunstone

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    That gives me an idea. Let's all agree to write to our Democratic Senators, including Sanders, and propose that the lot of them start 'casually' referring to the Capitol Building toilets as glowing examples that socialism actually works and is a very good thing.

    You know, "If we can share toilets, Comrade Schumer, why is it our reactionary friends are unable to see that we can just as equitably share the GDP?"

    It should be fascinating. and perhaps not in the least a little bit instructive, to see just how long it takes the Republicans to start using the carpets in their offices.

    It is actually quite interesting that America has come to having an entire major political party dedicated to little besides sticking it to the other major party. Throw in two or at most three other things, and you have the Republican platform today.

    It's so much like those thundering but small minded preachers who make their living railing non-stop against atheists. Everything they say circles back to atheists. That's the Republicans today, minus the religious trappings.
     
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    What I said was the point. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you. ;)
     
  11. Audie

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    Speaking as an absent non combatant the
    vilifying looks pretty nearly 50 50 in your
    nominally united states.

    Excepting say in NYC where its universal nonstop
    that " conservative " or "republican"
    Is a swear word.
     
  12. icehorse

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    From your perspective, do the platforms of the two parties seem ethically on par with each other?
     
  13. Audie

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    Whatevs
     
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  14. Audie

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    My topic was vilifying, so dunno why you segway to ethics.

    What is an ethical platform
     
  15. Revoltingest

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    Perhaps the cry of "False equivalency!" looms.
    It's an absolute fact that Pubs are far far less
    ethical than Dems, so no comparison is allowed.
    (A planks-in-both-eyes problem.)
     
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  16. icehorse

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    Fair enough. Let me ask you this, do you think vilifying is ever ethical? For example, are we being ethical and moral when we vilify Hitler?

    If so, then if one party's platform is extremely unethical, and the other's is only somewhat unethical, would you say that vilification is more appropriate in one direction than in the other?
     
  17. Audie

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    Vilifting is seldom a good idea.

    What is an unethical platform?
     
  18. tytlyf

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    the corporate nightmare is here? rejoice!
     
  19. icehorse

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    Well a political platform is the collection of policies that a party wants to install. So for example, I would say that taking away affordable healthcare for millions of people, without providing a replacement, would be an unethical piece of a party's platform. So we can review all of the parties' platform elements and get an overall sense of relative ethical-ness, no?
     
  20. Audie

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    Promising affordable health care but lying
    about how it will work, that requires unconstitutional
    element, that doesn't work remotely as promised
    and fails 100% to address the core problems
    that make American healthcare so insanely
    expensive...ethical?

    But never mind all that.

    Platforms are broad policy goals, both
    sides proposed to improve things in
    evident good faith.

    What is or is not a good direction is not
    so much-if at all- ethics but how well
    thought out and executed.

    And opinion.

    You wanna know something I see as unethical?

    Presidents or congress people even accepting their
    huge salaries when they don't need it.
    Special deals, don't have to follow rules for the
    huddled masses.

    Reckless spending on things big and small,
    totally ignoring their fiduciary duty to
    TAXPAYERS for whom taxes are a real
    hardship.

    I dont think there's enough ethics in
    congress to fill a teaspoon.
     
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