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Skwim
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Jumi
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In what denomination?
Altfish
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Altfish
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This has been an actual discussion point in Christian theology at times throughout its history, and the Catholic Church assessed it's own position on this, releasing a document changing its position on this around a decade ago, working from memory.
Painting that as obvious in the way you are is unhelpful.
Are you disagreeing with the OP from a theological position, or do you doubt the veracity of the Eskimo story?
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Quite the interesting religious paradox isn't it? Earth's indigenous cultures apparently have this innocent ignorance when it comes to the evangelization from members of the Abrahamic traditions. They see these cultures ignorant of the "true faith" because they've never picked up a Bible or a Qur'an so to save them from their ignorant innocence they tell them thereby making them accountable when they didn't have to be before.
Remté
Active Member
Should there be a theological position to something so insubstantial? I doubt it's relevance. If one wants to dig holes to ideologies there are more intelligent ways of doing it.
You think Catholic Church doctrinal decisions are insubstantial and unintelligent from a theosophical point of view?
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
It seems to me that it's pretty much universal doctrine of christianity that one needs to believe to be saved and that one is or might be exempt from such if one is completely ignorant of this message of christianity.
Or at least: I have never encountered a christian who said that one does not need to be a christian in order be "saved".
So, I take it you disagree with that position?
Remté
Active Member
I'm not a Christian myself. I don't see why this need be about Christianity.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Really? Most concepts of sin and "wrong" are man made and highly subjective.
The question can be made in seriousness. That alone is reason enough to question the adequacy of current mainstream Christian doctrine.
"Sin" is a highly artificial concept.
Leaving that aside, morality is hardly ever "automated", although behavior and discourse may well be.
Morality is an intellectual activity, and its boundaries are limited by intellectual discernment. One of the basic moral tenets is in fact that of developing broader, deeper intellectual perception in order to further our moral abilities.
How and when people introduced theistic expectations into the mix is an interesting question to ask, but it does not interfere with the nature of morality proper, just with our ability to discern it.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
It's kind of implied in the OP.
It talks about "sin" and "hell" and the one being asked about it is a "priest".
Sounds pretty christian to me. What other religion could it be, considering that terminology?
There is absolutely no logical way to justify missioning the so called “good” news to anyone.
So, the question cannot be answered by any Christians without contradictions.
Ciao
- viole
No, the OP ha very good point. There was no reason whatsoever to mission to that Eskimo, especially if from that moment on, the Eskimo is held accountable for refuting the so called gift.
Ciao
- viole
GoodbyeDave
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But the two things are not equivalent. Everyone knows what wrongdoing exists: no society believes that it's acceptable to murder your parents for their money. But "sin" is the concept of a specific type of wrongdoing — ignoring divine commands — which only applies in systems like Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
The original post, although funny makes a serious point. In Christianity, a person who knows nothing of the faith, and who leads a good life, is "saved". A person who knows about Christianity and rejects it is "damned", no matter how good their life.