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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Tmac, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. Nakosis

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    I thought the idea was that Jesus already paid for all your sins. So nothing is going to happen here on earth. There may be hell or non-existence in the afterlife if you don't Jesus' payment on your behalf though.

    That means God's love is not unconditional in Christian belief.
     
  2. sayak83

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    I have never seen any prohibition against fighting for the Jewish nation in the OT. Neither there is any prohibition in the NT about talking up the army as a profession.
     
  3. Grandliseur

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    No need to.

    I'm in hell already. Daily fire and brimstone. If I had a gun, I might be gune already. (gone, pun on) Easy way out.
    I get by by distracting myself, at times by letting others feel the pain! (last was a joke) I didn't intend to cause pain.:):)
    Have a nice day.
     
  4. Grandliseur

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    I agree totally.
    I also think I love animals more than people.:)
     
  5. DavidFirth

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    Well, maybe my little joke was in bad taste. If so, I humbly apologize.
     
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    [​IMG] A woman is allowed to be Crazy so long as she is equally as Hot. God fails that scale big time. il be sticking with Aphrodite or something.
     
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    OK, so you murdered somebody?
     
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    How about a prohibition for autoerotic asphyxiation?
     
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    It sure does sound that way.
     
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    When you were testing gods love did you break the first commandment also?

    I always thought god should be more pro-active and like lightening bolt some people when they do heinous atrocities.
     
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    We are in the dispensation of grace.
     
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    Ok, if to what your saying to be true, That God's love is unconditional, Then why did Jesus have to die on the cross?

    There would have been no need of Jesus dieing if God's love is unconditional as you say.
    Then God would haved love everyone and there would haved been no need of Jesus dieing on the cross.
    Therefore God's Love is Conditional.

    If God's love is unconditional as you say it is, then why at the Judgement of God's, Those who have not Repented of their sins are cast into the lake of fire.
    Therefore, there is a Condition to God's Love.
     
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    Only a psycho like the Biblical god would have expected its 'son' to die a ghastly death to atone for its screw up when it supposedly created human nature!:eek:
     
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    Let me ask you this if Jesus, whom you seem to revere, preached forgiveness and to love one another with out condition, where did he get this idea?
     
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    There was a shot lived thread where some ask if there was any resemblance between posters on this forum and people in your life and ironically the other night I saw a commercial (Career Day with the Progressive Insurance Box) that put me in mind of this forum.
    It was a progressive insurance commercial where the pitchman was an animated box and the scene finds the box speaking to a classroom full of 8 to 10 year olds about insurance and when he's through he opens the floor to questions.

    1st question: How do you go to the bathroom? The box groans. Blah balh blah.

    2nd question: Do you have a girlfriend? Now this too is off the subject but is of interest so he get into his response.

    3rd question: Do you have a belly button? Another groan and the commercial fades.
     
  16. Tmac

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    Off subject, emotionally motivated.
     
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    How is it off topic, It's an opposing view to "gods love" as you say
     
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    What do you mean by spiritual growth? Nothing changed and that was the revelation.
     
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    Because you are talking about your understanding about some god and I'm talking about how I came to know a love that is unconditional.
     
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    I dont understand. If you accidently broke all commandments, god would forgive. Since you did so intentionally, what is the justification for his forgiveness in unconditional love?

    Spiritual growth is when you follow gods commandments as best you can. If you break one accidently, then that is growth towards a stronger relationship. When you intentionay cheat or break that commandment, that harms the relationship.

    If you intentionally killed just because, I can see unconditional love as forgivess. Since you killed to test god, I dont see how that can be forgiven unless you asked.

    When you ask you are spiritually growing, admitting what you did. Since you did this intentionally against god, what is the justification of the revelation?

    I mean. If one can be forgiven for intentional actions, one can sin all the time and everything will be fine.
     
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