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Featured God's Creation, and Some Misconceptions

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by 101G, Jan 22, 2023.

  1. 101G

    101G Well-Known Member

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    the bible is full of your scientific concepts. example,
    Genesis 1:14 "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" Genesis 1:15 "And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." Genesis 1:16 "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also." Genesis 1:17 "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth," Genesis 1:18 "And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:19 "And the evening and the morning were the fourth day."

    with these effect of the the sun, what about the moon, and its affects on the earth? 1. tidal effects. but that is only accomplish by the sun shining. and it’s gravitational or it’s pull in density, or its displacement in space causes this effect. now days, what do the bible mean. the bible said, “for days”. so to get a solar day, a. first the spinning of the earth itself. for without this spinning, or rotation, one could not get a 24hr. solar day. b. by this spinning, or rotation of the earth on its axis's, hence we have the scientific term called precession, which causes the seasons. notice the bible said "for seasons". and by its Orbits, the earth, the moon, and the sun, we have signs. and these signs are set by pedigree and Apogee of the earth from the sun. another scientific term. now signs in the heavens are set which causes eclipse, both of the sun and the moon.
    so right in the measure of days, or may I say solar days, we have confirmed scientific terminology of 1. orbit, and in these orbits we have 2. trajectory, which declare signs and wonders. HOW? In the placement of Earth orbit from the sun this is what scientist call pedigree and Apogee. without these set distances, eclipses would not be possible. but with said distance we have different phases of the moon and the sun. yes all of this science is right here in the bible. these trajectory of the moon and the sun in their pedigree and Apogee produce what we see as eclipses of both the sun and the moon. again the bible is confirmed by true science.
    Also we have the position of the stars, with the movement of the earth and the sun, we have in science what we calls “astronomy” its all there right in the creation account. again, science just put labels on what God have already provided. this is just the tip of the ICEBURG in astronomy, there is much more to learn, but as said, this is a bible study, not a astronomy class, but one can see what God has done.
    just some more examples of science in the bible

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    see post #41 again

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    see post #41

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    could be, or older. even the Rocks cannot tell.
    Man was
    here before any chimps. so, we have no monkey as uncles, nor any aunties That swings in any trees.

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    Sorry, not scientific. You need to learn what the term means.
     
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    No, there are "clocks" in many rocks. The rocks do tell us how old that the Earth is.

    And of course we have ape relatives. You are an ape. What did you think that you were?
     
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    (smile) ...... did you not read with understanding? or is it just your personal opinion?

    try reading post #41 again.

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    dybmh Terminal Optimist

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    No, not an objection. I read it a little differently, but it doesn't matter too much. I love the creative approach. That's what's so great about these early chapters of Genesis. There's so many ways to understand what's happening, and the reader is essentially invited to create alongside God.

    An editorial note: The explanation you brought is a very very long paragraph and that makes it difficult to read and process. It could use paragraph breaks in there, imo. Although, in this case it may be a benefit for you, because those who aren't really interested in discussing the topic will probably be put off and not read it in detail. And those folks will hopefully skip the thread, leaving this to those of us who are honestly wanting to hear you out and discuss.

    Oh, and I do agree with the other poster questioning the sub-forum choice, science and religion. I think this belongs in scriptural debates. Putting it here invites critique which may distract from where you want the discussion to go.
     
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    not according to the bible.

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    I understand your errors quite well.

    Would you like to learn how science is done? Would you like to learn how we know what we know?
     
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    So what? Genesis is pure myth. The events in it never happened.
     
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    Why are you assuming a literalist interpretation at all? If any of this was correct you would see references of it in science books. There isn't.
     
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    true. yes, God can say just a few words and fill a library. it's incredible the information still not understood by science in God Holy Word.
    I know...... (smile), for you my brother, copy and paste it for your study at your leisure. as the bible says ..... Romans 15:4 "For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope."

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    personal Opinion again? prove the bible wrong

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    Easy there was no Flood of Noah. I can do it with a picture. I bet that you will not understand the refutation.

    Are you game? I will post a picture that refutes the flood. If you understand the sciences you should be able to figure out how it refutes the flood.



    But of course you are just shifting the burden of proof. Something that someone that knew what they believed was wrong would do. In the science section you need to prove that the Bible is reliable. You cannot do that. You will probably not even try to do that.

    I am willing to more than fulfill my burden of proof. Are you willing to do the same?
     
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    Not proof, no. But, I do think it introduces some problems when these chapters are read out of order. For example, if people were formed on day three as your are describing in chapter 2, then the totality of a person is not in the form of the likeness of God. Only their masculine and feminine qualities would be in the form of the likeness of God. This seems to exclude the non-gendered emotional and intellectual attributes which I deem as holy along with the other spiritual attributes which are opposing polarities.
     
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    Until you prove that the Bible is reliable it is just another book.
     
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    is precession, pedigree and Apogee, eclipse, orbits, trajectory,just to name a few. are they not in science books?

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    have it not been reliable? just because you didn't see these things in creation, now it's not reliable?

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    I'm game.

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