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God's Creation, and Some Misconceptions

gnostic

gnostic

The Lost One
101G said:
There are many misconceptions from man about what was created/Made, When and where, or how many.
let's discuss from the bible these misconceptions.

#1. Man was formed on day 3, before any animals, and was made male and female on day 6.

#2. Adam and Eve had Children.in the Garden of Eden before they had Cain and Able outside the Garden.

#3. There were no pre-Adamic Race.

from these three Truths, all other questions are answered, as to A. Where did Cain get his wife from? B. Who are the son of God in Genesis chapter 6, (and they are not angels) C. Why is Cain not mention in Adam genealogy, since he was supposing to be Adam firstborn ...... son? as well as why Abel is not in Adam genealogy?

by understanding the TRUTH of these three misconceptions above, a correct and truthful understanding of God's creation can be accomplish and held in "Faith" by true believers.

101G
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Another person...another creationist creating a thread, who have no ideas what science is, or how science works.

Just make up things, mixing biblical passages with science, never understanding what utter disastrous gibberish had created for himself or herself.

Sorry, 101G, but many of your replies not only reveal your lack of education in basic biology, basic physics and basic astronomy.

Why would you even bring up quantum physics up, when you don’t even understand it?

It only makes you look foolish and ignorant.

My advice to you some little reading and research on the subject, try to grasp the basics, and ask questions if you need help.

Don’t make things up, people will see though it. And don’t bring up subject that you cannot support. A claim made without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
 
101G

101G

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gnostic said:
Sorry, 101G, but many of your replies not only reveal your lack of education in basic biology, basic physics and basic astronomy.
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Don't be sorry, well then educate us on if Eve had a pregnancy or not while in the Garden?
gnostic said:
Why would you even bring up quantum physics up, when you don’t even understand it?
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do you?
gnostic said:
My advice to you some little reading and research on the subject, try to grasp the basics, and ask questions if you need help.
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and?
gnostic said:
Don’t make things up, people will see though it. And don’t bring up subject that you cannot support. A claim made without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
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well now, as 101G asked before, did Eve have a pregnancy in the garden yes, or no?

101G.
 
101G

101G

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TagliatelliMonster said:
As much as Santa's elven helpers are working at the Santa Toy factory
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so that's where a pregnancy come from........ :D lol, lol, lol, lol.

Oh dear, ladies and gents. you have heard it here ,,,,, FIRST, what a Scientific answer...... :oops:

could not myself guessed that in a thousand years.....

101G.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
101G said:
so, we can take it that with science. you cannot disprove that Adam and Eve had children in the Garden. thought so..... NEXT.
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No one has to disprove myths.

Why would anyone have to disprove a myth? If you think any of the Bible myths are true then it's on you to present evidence and a coherent argument.

101G said:
just for argument sake, is pregnancy a evidence, (forget mythology or not). is a pregnancy a evidence, yes or no?
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It is evidence that sex took place. Is this confusing to you?

It would also be material evidence of a rape if there was a criminal charge against someone by a victim. I liked how Hitchens referred to Mary being a victim of celestial rape to get pregnant with Jesus.

Of course it is an absurd act (the whole Jesus myth is absurd), why would God need to commit rape when women get pregnant naturally daily? Why couldn't God just pick some unfortunate soul to sacrifice to himself to pay for the sins of mankind? Or God could have created the Garden and Humans without a trap that would result in the Fall at all. All that was God's doing, and God should have created Adam and Eve with the ability to resist temptation from the Serpent, which God also put in the Garden. If God really wanted the Garden to go on indefinately then he should have not designed traps and consequences.
 
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101G

101G

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F1fan said:
No one has to disprove myths.
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is a pregnancy a myth?
F1fan said:
Why would anyone have to disprove a myth? If you think any of the Bible myths are true then it's on you to present evidence and a coherent argument.
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Again the Evidence, Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

multiply is a scientific concept. as well as "conception"
H2032 הֵרוֹן herown (hay-rone') n-m.
הֵרָיוֹן herayown (hay-raw-yone')
pregnancy.
[from H2029]
KJV: conception.
Root(s): H2029

and,
sorrow
H6093 עִצָּבוֹן `itstsabown (its-tsaw-ɓone') n-m.
worrisomeness, i.e. labor or pain.
[from H6087]
KJV: sorrow, toil.
Root(s): H6087

so, from these scientific words, did Adam and eve have children in the Garden, yes or no?

101G.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
101G said:
is a pregnancy a myth?

Again the Evidence, Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

multiply is a scientific concept. as well as "conception"
H2032 הֵרוֹן herown (hay-rone') n-m.
הֵרָיוֹן herayown (hay-raw-yone')
pregnancy.
[from H2029]
KJV: conception.
Root(s): H2029

and,
sorrow
H6093 עִצָּבוֹן `itstsabown (its-tsaw-ɓone') n-m.
worrisomeness, i.e. labor or pain.
[from H6087]
KJV: sorrow, toil.
Root(s): H6087

so, from these scientific words, did Adam and eve have children in the Garden, yes or no?
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How about that, have sex, and it leads to pregnancy. Does this amaze you, somehow?

Even ancient people understood that sex would lead to offspring. That some Bible stories include these observations is amazing, why?

And guess what, even goats get pregnant and have offspring.
 
101G

101G

Well-Known Member
F1fan said:
How about that, have sex, and it leads to pregnancy. Does this amaze you, somehow?

Even ancient people understood that sex would lead to offspring. That some Bible stories include these observations is amazing, why?

And guess what, even goats get pregnant and have offspring.
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Oh! are you kidding? what do the goats look like when they come out?.... (Smile) .... :eek: Yikes! ..... lol, lol, lol Oh dear

101G.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
101G said:
GINOLJC, to all.
apparently, one has to meet people where they are at. John 3:12 "If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?"

101G will try once again to give you UNDERSTANDING in Science.

Another example. if someone, for argument's sake, John Doe was on a track field getting ready to WALK around the TRACK. mr Doe was standing at the STARTING LINE. then 101G comes walking by walking and says to mr. Doe let's WALK. and while walking 101G said let's increase the speed in our walk.

now, while STANDING still at the STARTING LINE mr. Doe were at zero velocity.

NOW THINK PEOPLE, can mr, Doe at the STARTING LINE A. INCREASE his speed (acceleration)..... which is ZERO, or B, as accelerate states undergo a change in velocity? which one, answer, B.

NOW, THINK AGAIN PEOPLE. While Walking, mr. Doe has undergone a change in velocity, (accelerate), again for argument sake, he has gone from 0 velocity, (standing still), to 1 mile per hour.

now when 101G ask mr. Doe, (while walking, in motion), let's .... "INCREASE" the speed in our Walk, (NOT STANDIND STILL AT THE STARTING LINE), but in motion, now mr. Doe is in, or can execute, or undergo acceleration. because he has already accelerated, from standing STILL.

so, what have we LEARNED, one cannot INCREASE their Walk unless they are WALKING, and not STANDING STILL....... hello,

now TRANSLATE this Scripture, God could not increase Aam and Eve pregnancies, (unless they had pregnancies before) one cannot INCREASE something from NOTHING.

now if one cannot understand this, then one need to go back and be re-educated...... in BASIC SCIENCE.

101G.
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It seriously looks as if you are trolling when you post such an incredibly jumbled and wrong argument..

Mr. Doe was standing. To walk he would have to accelerate. He would have to change his velocity from zero to some other figure.
 
101G

101G

Well-Known Member
Subduction Zone said:
It seriously looks as if you are trolling when you post such an incredibly jumbled and wrong argument..

Mr. Doe was standing. To walk he would have to accelerate. He would have to change his velocity from zero to some other figure.
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did you really read my post? ..... lol, never mind.

101G
 
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