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God VS Evil
- Thread starter Nefelie
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Sabour
Well-Known Member
Not understanding the reason for why we are created leads to wrong assumptions.
Nefelie
Member
Why we are created, according to your beliefs?
raph
Member
For some people medicin is evil, should God destroy it? I believe that there is no evil and everything in life ("good and bad") is actually good for us because God is the source of only good. We have no authority to declare anything to be evil, because we are too stupid. Let God decide what is good for us. The world is perfect and consists only of experiences that are best for us, because God wants the best for everyone and His will shall be manifest.
Sabour
Well-Known Member
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
... or... human logic fails regarding an omni max being?
The true God is both willing and able. Evil comes from wicked rebels against God, both human and spirit, IMO. (1 John 5:19, Deuteronomy 32:4,5)
well, if said being can still affect you in a positive or negative manner, and you can't really affect them, but you might get them to be nice to you once in awhile, why not call he/she/it/them a god? Or even if it can affect you only by doing things that will hurt you? What's wrong with recognizing their power, even if they aren't the ultimate power?
Personally, I think we humans spend way too much time worrying about ultimates and omnimaxes and things like that...
Akivah
Well-Known Member
Yeah, Christians have trouble with this. I keep seeing what you posted popup multiple times per year from different people. The old 'problem of evil' thread.
These questions have no relevance in Judaism. Torah tells us that G-d created evil. It is part of His Creation.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
It does not seem he tries to prevent it all.
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
This line of thought is everything that is wrong with religion.
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
Gee thanks God!
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
If God is willing and able to prevent evil, God would prevent the wicked rebels.
So let's revise the question:
Is God willing to prevent wicked rebels, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh wicked rebels?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
The bible actually does talk about killing those who worship other gods.
Tumah
Veteran Member
Oh this is a new topic.
Theoretically, G-d could take away the desire to do wicked, but its that desire to be wicked that we need to overcome that is what G-d uses to test us so that He can reward us. So although evil is temporarily uncomfortable, in the long term, it has positive benefit and is thus good.
He is able to prevent evil as much as anything else, but does not desire to, not out of malevolence, but because it serves a positive purpose. It punishes the wicked and returns the righteous to G-d. Rather, if we would not desire to do wicked things, we would not need evil. Alternatively, if we would repent before the whip strikes, there'd be no need for the whip.
Theoretically, G-d could take away the desire to do wicked, but its that desire to be wicked that we need to overcome that is what G-d uses to test us so that He can reward us. So although evil is temporarily uncomfortable, in the long term, it has positive benefit and is thus good.
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
What about miracles?
Neo Deist
Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
They don't happen by way of divine intervention.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
Then why do christians think maricles come from god?