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God said it, not me...
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The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
They should bear absolute responsibility.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
It's like a ventriloquist saying "The puppet said it, not me." That's all religion is, really; sitting god on your knee and putting words in his mouth.
allfoak
Alchemist
I hear a lot of the opposite going on.
People who judge that a certain sin leads to
Should or shouldn't, I think they will bear the responsibility for what they say. We all will, imo.
allfoak
Alchemist
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This is somewhat simplistic, but I think Christianity can be sometimes be usefully looked at as divided between those Christians who focus on the loving aspects of the Christian God, and those Christians who focus on the "hell and damnation" aspects of the same God.
The former seem to emphasize their God's love and mercy, and to encourage social responsibility towards others, especially the poor and less fortunate. The latter tend to emphasize their God's judgment and punishment, and tend to focus on personal salvation through faith in Jesus Christ as their lord and savior.
The division between the two seems to be as much a matter of individual personality as it is anything else. Are you more motivated by love of God or fear of God? At least, that's my take on it. I'm probably all wrong once again.
The former seem to emphasize their God's love and mercy, and to encourage social responsibility towards others, especially the poor and less fortunate. The latter tend to emphasize their God's judgment and punishment, and tend to focus on personal salvation through faith in Jesus Christ as their lord and savior.
The division between the two seems to be as much a matter of individual personality as it is anything else. Are you more motivated by love of God or fear of God? At least, that's my take on it. I'm probably all wrong once again.
allfoak
Alchemist
I have found a lot of love until you cross their beliefs, then the fear kicks in and you are now in the other camp and not to be associated with.
Lives are ruined over this stuff.
Families torn apart and worse.
For some, it is like a bad love affair.
First I believe words are meaningless. I only hold people responsible for actions but If you are going to hold Christians responsible for what there god says. You have to use the same standards with all religions. If you do that, I'd be fine with it.
allfoak
Alchemist
I would have to agree of course.
Islam teaches eternal hell for unbelievers too.
But these are their religions. The idea that a person will be in hell forever hurts no-one. They've explained to you why they think you are going to hell, that's what they believe, so let them alone.
But these are their religions. The idea that a person will be in hell forever hurts no-one. They've explained to you why they think you are going to hell, that's what they believe, so let them alone.
If a person tells you that you will go to hell for something and he or she unwittingly does the same thing for the reason he believes in hell for that sin, he will go to hell.
With what judgment you are judging, you will be judged.
And?
No. Your point had little to do with my own.
I see. If you let someone alone who is headed for the fire of hell, can you call it love?
It is because you said, "leave them alone". I don't believe in leaving someone alone who I can see is in DANGER.
What?
I meant leave the believers who believe you are going to hell alone. Their belief is hurting no-one.
allfoak
Alchemist
Sure if it were that simple.
They have a mandate to save my soul.
Through any means necessary.
But, it is hurting them imo.
They've chosen to believe that, so *shrug*.