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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jun 8, 2021 at 8:23 PM.

  1. Fool

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    Why would a person want an extrinsic, mediated, god separate from themselves? isnt that what most monotheistic and polytheistic believers see/view themselves in relationship to their divinity?
     
  2. Brian2

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    The truth does not change simply because we might want it to.
    If I am God then God is seriously messed up.
    I'm happy that God is greater than me and is my Father and there to teach etc.
     
  3. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    It's part of the joy of relationships. Someone different than me finds me worthwhile.

    Why would a person want to be the same unified person as someone else?

    I find oneness to be very very boring.
     
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    John 14:20

    there is a mustard seed
     
  5. Fool

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    But what is being worthwhile if not the same to other as self?
     
  6. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
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    It's a devotional practice which cultivates humility.
     
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  7. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    Well I think there is both common ground, such as basic morals. And there is also the unique personality that a person is from other people.

    Nobody responds the same way in every situation. I find differences to be worthy because of unique perspectives I've never noticed.
     
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    Did'ja ever notice, we're mostly nuts?
     
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  9. Fool

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    how does assigning god(s) a place separate from self or another as self a practice of humility?

    Exodus 20:18-21

    God didn't make this covenant with the Israelites, Moses did.
     
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  10. Fool

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    Fine but if Christ is all and in all then is not God immanent?I

    Collosians 3:11. Why remove the light to some other place, if self is the light of the world?
     
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    God is in me, and I am in Him.
     
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    In Christ we can be children of God but we are creations and not deity. We taste of the divine nature but God and His Son are fully divine and the Son brings us into fellowship with God through Himself, the one who became a man to lift us up.
     
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    humility is a natural consequence of accepting an external authority
     
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    Created creation is all laws in natural as the authority.

    To be humbled is a human status was forced. Spiritual humans don't expect another human to humble themselves before them. We are equal.

    Equal human not an elitist human who wrote the science argument as hypocrites. About self being a God as if you could react a reaction like natural forces had. False I am a God man scientist status.

    God owned gas spirits humans not God as we live in water state.

    Where the false superiority began.

    So lying is dangerous as when groups who lie in group purpose and by truth lying claim self is right when they know self was never right got us destroyed in life on earth.

    Rome in its God past did not stop science God stopped science by blowing up temple and toppled pyramids. Science ended. It never began.

    The day science learnt it was not God.

    Science said God mass activated first conversion not my machine. I already converted natural dusts a long time ago to make them irradiating.

    So when he wants his machine taken from God mass to be God then God destroys converts their machine as God already owned conversion once in science. As mass.

    Once is always the only moment in time. Science practiced being God first was shown no man in science is God.
     
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    I believe every atoms in this world is a part of Allah. There is nothing existance without Allah. What is not a part of Allah is lower self or ego.
     
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    Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"?


    jesus said that which is born of Spirit is Spirit and that which is born of flesh is flesh. Spirit gave life to flesh. Flesh doesn't give life to Spirit.
     
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    but aren't you choosing/rejecting what is authoritative? why continue to ignore what self is doing? why no observation of self? is ignorance of self an excuse to project authority upon other but not self?
     
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    what is not aware of allah is darkness itself
     
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    People crave the care and protection of a parent, even into their adulthood. A father or mother figure is very comforting.
     
  20. SalixIncendium

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    As you likely already know, in Hindu philosophy, bhakti (worship/devotion/love) is one of the three yogas that lead to liberation (the other two being karma (action) and jnana (knowledge).

    I think the choice of which path to follow in life is dependent on one's karma and where they are in their journey to liberation. A Bhakti lives in devotion to the Lord and strives to perform all actions in life in service to God with the goal of understanding of and union with divinity.

    For some, a transcendental view if the Divine is optimal, for others, and immanent view is. It depends on the person.
     
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