God loves gays and lesbians

[Sand Dancer]

As simple as that
100% sure

Either God is love or he's not. If he's not, he's not one deserving of worship. If he is, let's stop hating and discriminating.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Well aggressive people didn’t choose to be that way ether, but they are expected to go against their own nature and try to avoid violent actions.

So if you accept the premise that it is wrong to be gay, then gay people are expected to fight against their own nature and avoid doing gay stuff.

It shouldn’t be a big of a deal, we all fight against our nature we all do things that “we don’t like” or avoid things that we would like to do.

Everyone can change their behavior to be more acceptable. Sexual orientation is about way more than that. Can you stop being hetero?

 

[Exaltist Ethan]

@Sgt. Pepper

Why did you choose to know more about the Bible than most people who self-identify as Christian?

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

@Sgt. Pepper

Why did you choose to know more about the Bible than most people who self-identify as Christian?

I was a devout Christian for thirty years, and I've read the Bible cover to cover several times during my lifetime.

 

[stvdv]

Either God is love or he's not. If he's not, he's not one deserving of worship. If he is, let's stop hating and discriminating.

Exactly

The Greatest Commandment is simple and easy to understand, I thought

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

So, nothing then. But we have one book: Holy Bible. Check mate!

You get "check mate" when you can show me proof of authorship.

 

[stvdv]

Upholding what you like while discarding what you don't like is the definition of cherry picking.
cher·ry-pick·ing
/ˈCHerēˌpikiNG/

noun

1. the action or practice of choosing and taking only the most beneficial or profitable items, opportunities, etc., from what is available.

Well, in this case of @Starlight it's not about what "she likes or dislikes", it's about knowing the essence...verses declared most important trump all other verses not declared as most important

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well, in this case of @Starlight it's not about what "she likes or dislikes", it's about knowing the essence...verses declared most important trump all other verses not declared as most important

That's called cherry picking, and very poor theology as it's an endless debate with no clear answer as to what to discard and what to follow.
Or, if one part isn't real then what makes a dead person coming back to life real? If you're going to snip the unbelievable and nasty bits, why not the totally impossible?
If you're pick and choose parts of a religion why even bother with that religion?

 

[leroy]

Everyone can change their behavior to be more acceptable. Sexual orientation is about way more than that. Can you stop being hetero?

No but if my sexual orientation/attractions where morally wrong, people would expect me to work on them and avoid acting on such orientation.

For example given the fact that I am attracted to other women other than my wife, people expect me to “repress” and don’t cheat on my wife.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Who told you to write title of a book with lowercase letter?

Did it cross your mind that may have been a typo and it's bad taste to criticize and point such things out because I promise that you, and no one else, has a 100% accuracy and never types any errors.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

What are the unholy books of atheism?

Anything by Ayn Rand?

 

[Sand Dancer]

No but if my sexual orientation/attractions where morally wrong, people would expect me to work on them and avoid acting on such orientation.

For example given the fact that I am attracted to other women other than my wife, people expect me to “repress” and don’t cheat on my wife.

Morally wrong according to who? You don't seem to understand sexual orientation. You have a choice to have sex with your wife, even if you don't have sex with anyone else. Who else is a gay person going to have sex with? Someone who is the gender they aren't attracted to? Would you want the only choice you have is to have sex with the same gender?

 

[Wildswanderer]

God loves gays and lesbians. It is not a sin. They do not harm anyone. They only love each other. God is love. Because of this i know God is not against same sex relationship

God loves everyone. That doesn't mean people don't sin.
And why would you assume they love each other?

 

[Wildswanderer]

They don't exist. Atheism has no rules, no commandments, no ritual, ceremony, rite.

No morality...

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

God loves gays and lesbians. It is not a sin. They do not harm anyone. They only love each other. God is love. Because of this i know God is not against same sex relationship

Agreed. I've never gotten the impression that God views me as lesser for being a trans man and bisexual.

 

[Truth in love]

Option 2 is an easy one
There is 1 clear verse in the Bible, that proves that it's okay to be gay

But, I see you are Christian, so I am 100% sure you know that verse

I’ve been studying the bi lie near 40 years and have yet to see such a verse. Please cite.

 

[ppp]

Sodoma and Gomora was about rape, not homosexuals

Sodom and Gomorrah was about hospitality rules.

 

[Sand Dancer]

No morality...

People get morality from lots of different sources. Why would atheists have no morality? Do you think your religion has the corner on morality? Look around. That's hardly true.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What about Sodom and Homorra of Holy Bible? What about Great Flood of Bible?

God gives His reasons for destroying Sodom and doesn't mention homosexuality:

"48 "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done.

49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom:
She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen." - Ezekiel 16:48-49

My Orthodox Study Bible's rendering of that passage doesn't mention homosexuality at all, either, and that's a very conservative translation. I would think if homosexuality was the biggest reason, God would've mentioned this, through His prophet.

I've never heard anyone say the Flood was caused by homosexuality.

 

[leroy]

Morally wrong according to who? You don't seem to understand sexual orientation. You have a choice to have sex with your wife, even if you don't have sex with anyone else. Who else is a gay person going to have sex with? Someone who is the gender they aren't attracted to? Would you want the only choice you have is to have sex with the same gender?

Well lets say that for whatever reason I cant ever have sex with my wife (perhaps a medical reason)

Am I expected to respect her and not have sex with other women? (Yes)

Or should I say, it’s my nature, I have a natural desire for sex, therefore I can cheat on my wife (NO)

Morally wrong according to who?

I am not making any moral judgment, I said “if” you accept the premise that doing gay stuff is wrong , then gay people are expected not do gay stuff.
All I am implying is that the “it´s his nature” argument is silly,