epronovost
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God is the one who's creating all the things that you see all around you.
- Thread starter chinu
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How?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Please give falsifiable or valid evidence for the fact there the real world matters.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
No, it doesn't.
No. I see no reason to take your posts any more seriously than you're taking other people's.
No need to challenge if you like to give this new name to God
So, "God" is not actual being or thing; it's just a symbol or a placeholder in the absence of any explanation for all these things around us.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I don't see reason. Can you tell me the properties of what you see and explain how I can replicate your test?
chinu
chinu
A dead person cannot reply.
When there's God inside only then the person is alive.
What made you alive, if NOT God ? tell me.
chinu
chinu
in the first place.
ElishaElijah
Return
When I look at Creation, the World, the Universe, even in the smallest details of life, the order of life and how things work, the human body even just our eyes it’s obvious to me. This doesn’t include people who have died and come back to life and testify about what they’ve seen and experienced, suggest there is an afterlife, The biblical account of Jesus Christ, His life, resurrection, testimonies of those who spent years walking with Jesus Christ and recorded in the Bible. You literally cannot walk through this life without seeing and hearing the evidence all around us of His influence even in unbelievers who use His name as a curse word.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Another baseless assertion (and still no definition of 'god').
Ongoing biological processes.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
I'm at work looking at a product that I created.
Having said that, I see no need to challenge bare statements.
I'll happily dismiss without evidence that which is asserted without evidence.
I wouldn't, for it seems to me that I would agree due to these verses:
"For you [God] love all things that exist, and detest none of the things that you have made, for you would not have made anything if you had hated it. How would anything have endured if you had not willed it? Or how would anything not called forth by you have been preserved? You spare all things, for they are yours, O Lord, you who love the living."
"In him [God] we live and move and have our being," or "one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all," or "for by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together" (which is said of the Lord Jesus).
Although such is my opinion. Pretty cool according to me.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
My opinion is different and as long as you don't demand God's laws, but accept human laws we will be fine.
Nothing easier than that. Superman created all the things you see around you. How are you going too challenge that?
Ciao
- viole
A Vestigial Mote
Well-Known Member
So is God consistently creating the things we see around us? As in, these things need constant "creation" to be around? You worded this in the present tense like this... so why did you do that? And there is an interesting thing to point out about this kind of thinking if you truly think that there is ongoing "creation" happening for various things around the world.
For example, a tree - based on the processes that have been documented for the "birth" and growth development of trees, we can understand that the seed of the tree begins taking in nutrients and water from its surroundings, adding to its mass and branching out - it is not "creating" anything, only re-appropriating. The wording of your statement lays bare the probable case that you simply do not understand how that works at a fundamental level. To the point that you then just see "magic" happening all around you that dazzles your mind. When in reality, there are explanations for all of the things you might seem to think just "pop" into existence. Sand is another good example - pertinent too, since my son is learning about the rock cycle in his 3RD GRADE CLASS at the moment. They're studying weathering and erosion and deposition - which are the processes that create and deposit things like sand in large quantities. If asked, I could imagine you saying that God "creates" the sand... and I could see you imagining that it just "poofs" into existence like that.
If this is not how you think, then I would advise watching how you word certain turns of phrase. And also... don't go around claiming "God did it." It isn't honorable. It isn't intellectual. It isn't cute.
What does "accept human laws" mean to you here and "don't demand God's laws"?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
By living differently than you in regards to what matters. It is that easy.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, are the laws secular or theocratic? That is the short version.
What laws? There are human laws and divine laws in the world according to me, which can be broken down further but that is the broadest categorization.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
As long as you keep the divine laws personal to you, just as I keep my religion personal to me, then okay.
epronovost
Well-Known Member
That's not an answer to how does God write for me or how God gets inside of me?