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Featured God is the one who's creating all the things that you see all around you.

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by chinu, Oct 20, 2021.

  1. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Maybe, but maybe you are dogmatically assuming a consistency to the world that is not in the world as such, but only a belief in you.

    So here is the test. We are both in the world, different parts of the world and neither of us are all of the world.

    You are consistent and I am not. So the question is, is all of the world constient, if a part is not? Answer that please.
     
  2. Subduction Zone

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    Nope. One does not need to be dogmatic to test reality.
     
  3. mikkel_the_dane

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    So how do you explain and not explain away, that humans at least in some cases can be inconstient?
     
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    Because people are far from perfect.
     
  5. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    So the world is not perfect as it is in a sense inconstient, but you are special because you are perfect? Is that it?
     
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    No. When we test the world in a way that avoids human imperfection we begin to see consistent results. This indicates that the flaw is in mankind and not the world.
     
  7. mikkel_the_dane

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    So humankind is not a part of the world and in the world? Yeah, I don't do that kind of dualism.
     
  8. Subduction Zone

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    Nope. No dualism. Simply rational thought. You should try it some day.
     
  9. mikkel_the_dane

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    But you are not a part of the world, since you are a part of humankind and not the world.
     
  10. Subduction Zone

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    Like I said, you should try reality some day. And a serving of rational thought as desert wouldn't hurt either.
     
  11. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Yes, I know. I am not in the world nor reality and you are. And somehow you know as in the world and in reality, that I am not in them. So how do you know this?
     
  12. Subduction Zone

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    You are in reality. You just seem to deny it quite often.

    By the way, do you realize that you have ceded the right to demand answers to questions?
     
  13. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    So that is a part of reality and how it works. Good, we agree.

    For the non-bold. I don't care, because you have no Objective Authority over the world or reality.
     
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    One meant mass meant everything is only owned once and not by humans.

    The human teaching you are a self who dies. God everything continues without you. We live supported by earth the mass and heavens a mass.

    Pretty basic human advice.

    Human science argued about ownership. A natural human knew we were not any God.

    If we said we were sons and daughters of God as humans it said we were only humans.

    Genesis was a human medical advice was not gods advice. The information theists lied about.

    You only own human genesis as a human in self human presence.

    If you asked what mass of spirit do we own as human the percentage was water oxygen.
     
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    At least I appear to understand it far better than you do. Solipsism is not a working philosophy. It is fine for hiding in the closet and masturbating, but there is much more to life than that.
     
  16. mikkel_the_dane

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    Okay, I will nice. But you get about 1 hour and then I will report your post and give context to how you might have broken the rules.
     
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    I went back to sleep. So the hour was up. But what was wrong with my statement? I have only seen solipsism used to defend selfish behavior. My example may have been a bit extreme, but it was correct.
     
  18. mikkel_the_dane

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    Only using evidence show that selfish behavior is bad. That is your belief, I know. But I want evidence. Or you are an irrational believer like that rest of us and you are in for a Nobel prize. It is that simple.
    Solve ethics with science or shut up, because you are now different than the rest of us and not special.

    And since you know what solipsism is, how many versions are there?
     
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    Do you want evidence? Okay, a prime example of selfish behavior is vaccine denialism. We see that far more in red counties than in blue counties in the US. Guess which ones have a far higher death rate due to Covid19? I can provide the statistics for you.
     
  20. mikkel_the_dane

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    Yeah, it is subjectively bad. But I want evidence as per science and not your feelings. I can base everything on feeling. I mean I don't like you, so you are not really a human and not relevant. But you don't want that, right? You want evidence and so do I.
     
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