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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Starlight, Oct 21, 2021.

  1. DNB

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    Those that do are adhering to and espousing, a heretical and blasphemous doctrine.
    God is one, and can only be one in order to be perfect and complete. There is no redundancy, division nor confusion within the singularly pure Godhead.
     
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    Well, that's your own version of worship. So its a knowledge issue. You have a different idea. So you cannot really impose your idea you see?
     
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    Why do you consider yourself to be a spiritualist, when nothing but delirium comes out of your mouth?
     
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    Why. Because I was taught concepts by a spiritualist minister.

    Delirium is just your ego response.

    One man is a human.

    Everyone is a human.

    One man says I will think on behalf of everything. Gave himself permission.

    So you design build control a machine.

    What you put inside of machine you attack change. By choice of one man.

    Men agreement the con.

    The title Satanism of God. One.

    You also as one self build design own operate machines. Machine to machine.

    Does your one mind say machine use to machine keeps me safe as all past machine conditions I have evolved past from myself?

    Why I apply the technology machine as my claim it cannot hurt me as it is in the past?

    The answer is yes.

    Now if you chose to use a machine to communicate at another human would your information change in the but I want to scenario? Just one man and his want?

    No.

    As the same advice says I am not doing it to my life.

    Makes you a satanic liar in the observation see of one in the eyes of God. Seeing the seer is another human.

    Natural human scientific advice.

    Why we said you were life's destroyers because you are. By want of it.
     
  6. blü 2

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    Two questions:

    How do you define worship?

    Have you ever been to a religious proceeding where part of the service was devoted to pointing out to the deity where [he] needed to lift [his] game?
     
  7. Shadow Wolf

    Shadow Wolf Student People Stabber

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    What benefit?
     
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    1. Worship. Is actually veneration. You only venerate one thing. That is, "THE GOD". Not money, not your own ego, not your children, not your priests. Not humans. Nothing but God. It is a way.

    2. I have seen all kinds of religious proceedings. But that is not my source of knowledge.
     
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  9. viole

    viole Ontological Naturalist
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    For me God is one ... less than your computation. So, I do not agree completely.

    Ciao

    - viole
     
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    I believe that God is One, but also that He, She or It has many names and wears many faces.
     
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  11. Truthseeker

    Truthseeker Non-debating member when I can help myself

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    God wants us to worship for our own good. He can do well without us. @Trailblazer remembers the quote from Baha'u'llah that says that essentially better than I do.
     
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    You were and presumably still are essential to the existence of your children. But did you really create them?
     
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    Many - though by no means all - of the atheists on this forum are as rigid and unwavering in their attachment to dogma, as full of certitude, and as lacking in capacity for self examination, as the worst kind of religious fundamentalist. But hey, good luck getting them to see it.
     
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    But veneration, reverence, adulation, whatever, it's uncritical ─ and correct me if I'm wrong, but it's also taught as a duty.
    Do you mean by this that you have attended a religious observance part of which was for criticism directed at God? Or that you have not? (I certainly have not.)
     
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    Oh yes. Its taught as a duty. But you missed the whole sentence and stuck with a word.

    Sorry I must have misunderstood you. No I have not attended any of that. Other than this forum and atheists who do that ritualistically. ;) Anyway, what people do at events is not my source of knowledge.
     
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    Feeling connected to God..... don't ask me how that works though since I never experienced it.
     
  17. Trailblazer

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    Yeah, here are a few of those quotes:

    “Regard thou the one true God as One Who is apart from, and immeasurably exalted above, all created things. The whole universe reflecteth His glory, while He is Himself independent of, and transcendeth His creatures.” Gleanings, p. 166

    “Consider the mercy of God and His gifts. He enjoineth upon you that which shall profit you, though He Himself can well dispense with all creatures.” Gleanings, p. 140

    “Your Lord, the God of mercy, can well dispense with all creatures. Nothing whatever can either increase or diminish the things He doth possess.Gleanings, p. 148

     
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    Then why if it's a benefit you don't get? And what is the benefit of being connected to god? And if god wants it for us, why does god not show something while I am probably the most open and receptive to a gods whatever that I'll ever be. But after several months there has been nothing.
     
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  19. Trailblazer

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    God created us out of His love for us, but God wants us to love Him before we can feel His love for us.

    3: O SON OF MAN! Veiled in My immemorial being and in the ancient eternity of My essence, I knew My love for thee; therefore I created thee, have engraved on thee Mine image and revealed to thee My beauty.

    4: O SON OF MAN! I loved thy creation, hence I created thee. Wherefore, do thou love Me, that I may name thy name and fill thy soul with the spirit of life.

    5: O SON OF BEING! Love Me, that I may love thee. If thou lovest Me not, My love can in no wise reach thee. Know this, O servant.


    The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 4

    God's love is always there, we just cannot feel it unless open up our heart and let it in.

    What Baha'is believe is different from what Christians believe, that God comes running after us with His love even if we don't love Him. I don't believe we can have a connection with God unless we are willing to love God first. Since I do not love God first I do not get the benefit of God's love.
     
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  20. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle Putin stamps on lesser mortals!
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    No, I disagree - as to worship, and God on a pedestal. And I think this is a particularly pernicious and dangerous view to have, given that it tends to cause divisions within humanity, and often friction and/or conflict, particularly when attributes and expectations come with such views and even expectations of any particular belief as to such being the 'right one'. Given that the various religions often have a God that works for them and not for others so often. And this is perhaps just a function of religions arising locally rather than globally, even if the aims of many are global - that is, no agreement on any particular God but mostly described by the particular religious belief. Besides this, I don't see the worship nature (master/slave) as being appropriate either, given that the 'rules' by which we are supposed to live vary enormously with the beliefs of the many who do have religious beliefs. An example currently in the news:

    Bangladesh's Hindus living in fear following mob attacks
     
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