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God is an abortion Doctor!

Discussion in 'Ethics and Morals' started by Spiderman, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. Spiderman

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    Please consider, this is not trolling, this is not actually intended to offend, but rather, my intentions are to bring the left and right closer to unity , by showing they both actually are mistaken, while at the same time, the abortion issue is irrefutably sometimes good and sacred, according to Christian Scripture and the Quran, because sometimes it prevents murderers and rapists from entering earth, or unbelievers and antichrists from hurting others, wicked shepherds, false prophets, or people going to hell.

    No christian can really argue that if someone rapes and murders children, their mother getting an abortion would have been good for the rapist murderer , and the victims.

    On the same token, the leftist liberals should stop using some of the wording, the terminology, saying "they are telling women what they cannot do with their own bodies", and denying it is the killing of a human.

    First, there are two bodies to consider, and my mother was told to get an abortion because she was in stressful demanding medical school (I told her she should have), but if my mother aborted me, I would not exist, because I would have been violently, legally executed by another human being, without a trial, and without having done anything wrong, as a defenseless, faultless unborn baby.

    Maybe it would have been best, time shall tell. For some it is. But God drowned well over 99% of babies and pregnant women in Scripture. God ordered Israelites to kill all babies and pregnant women in multiple cities in Scripture.

    So, it is irrefutably clear that the God of Scripture has repeatedly demonstrated that he is NOT pro life in many situations, repeatedly ordered the deaths of more babies, more than any abortion Doctor, and all of them combined.


    When God cursed humanity with original sin, he played the largest role and responsibility in all the world's death , for a crime we didn't do, so in that sense, every infant death was caused by God, the decision of God in advance, according to Scripture.

    If I died sinless, blameless, by an abortion Doctor, before becoming a murderer, antichrist, rapist, unbeliever, or damned soul, I wouldn't thank Jesus for saving my soul. My greater thanks would have to go to the abortion Doctor, for my salvation, and saving those I harm! ;)

    I think people need to control themselves, practice a bit more chastity, less sexual perversions, less sex crazed society, then less need for abortion!

    To be balanced though, abortion is sad, Abortion hurts women too, I have seen it, and sometimes the Father doesn't want the abortion, has little say so on the matter, and is very crushed, for the rest of his life sometimes, because that would have been a son or daughter he was looking forward to having, also something to consider!
     
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  2. Spiderman

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    If I become an antichrist, who leads a bunch of people into a lake of fire, sin, and abominations, then any abortion Doctor who put me out of my misery, while young and sinless, and blameless, should be awarded mother Teresa of Calcutta's Nobel prize.

    That abortion Doctor did more to save my soul, and other souls I harm or mislead, more to save us than Jesus Christ, in that circumstance. Something to ponder.:shrug:
     
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    Fortunately, none of these are issues that effect my life, much. "God" is an idea in the minds of humans. What correspondence these ideas have with the truth of what is, is a complete mystery. And I'm OK with that because I have realized that this existential mystery is a great gift, to me, and to all of us. It's what makes our lives fun and interesting and significant. It's how we get to determine who we are, for ourselves. It's how we learn to ascribe meaning and purpose to our endeavors. It's how we determine right from wrong. Everything that means anything to me has come to me because I do not know if or what God is, or what it means to be here, or to be me. And although I can always be wrong, and probably am, that doesn't matter to me because I can only see and do what makes sense to me. And I can understand that this is the case for us all. So I forgive everyone, and myself, in advance. Maybe someday we'll get to know who's right and who's wrong. Or if any of us were. But for now, all any of us can do is whatever it makes sense, to us, to do.
     
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    Since aborted fetuses have never experienced human consciousness, they rightly shall be considered as neither having ever been persons nor souls. Hence, their deaths by God are indeed not a homicidal episode.

    I figure God and I support planned parenthood! :)

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    The Bible also repeatedly demonstrates that God raises people up to violently abuse, victimize, rape, enslave, or murder the people he loves the most, his best friends or most beloved son even.

    God loved Joseph so much that he gave Joseph the fortunes, blessings, and grace to be hated, sold as a slave, imprisoned as a sex offender, and it was actually the best thing for Joseph, saved the greatest superpower on earth, and surrounding nations.

    Joseph told his persecutors "what you meant for evil, God meant for good".

    God's treatment of Job for being holy, was like someone rewarding his favorite loyal female friend , by inviting a man half his size , to steal her purse, rape her, murder her family, watch and do nothing, then tell her "I'm so proud of you, I'm going to give you a new family, house, and money, because you stayed faithful to me while I let someone victimize you, injure you, kill your loved ones, so I'm rewarding you, because I'm the rich gift to women, who was always by your side, while you were getting ravaged, pointed you out to a rapist and murderer, and gave him permission to only make your life a nightmare, abuse you, kill your family, but I didn't let him kill you, so enjoy your reward sunshine!

    I'm holy, blameless, chicks dig me"! ;):innocent:

    God hardened Pharaoh's heart , to not let Israelites go , so he could have excuse to kill babies and children , that didn't have blood smeared on door posts, was going to kill all of Israel in the wilderness , until Moses told him that was a terrible idea , and he changed his mind, and Moses only got famous because Pharaoh ordered all Jewish boys to be put to death, and he was rescued in a basket by Egyptian girls bathing in the Nile.

    God had Babylonians send his beloved people into captivity as slaves, and repeatedly killed countless thousands of his chosen people with pestilence, disasters, and wars, for sins of their king, or sins they weren't even guilty of.

    In christian tradition, God so loved his only son, that he had him born in a barn like an animal, crowned with thorns, stand naked and flogged in public, die nailed to a bit of wood, blaspheming "Father, why hast thou foresaken (abandoned) me"?

    There is a reoccurring theme where God brutally victimizes the people he loves the most, who are the most blameless of all sometimes, gives them crushing burdens too hard to carry.

    According to Christian theology, violently killing Jesus was the best thing that ever happened to him, made Jesus a greatest success, billions believe he rose from the dead only because of that, and his violent execution saved everyone and atoned for sin as a sacrificial lamb.

    I guess great evil done to the innocent, is actually often a great good, no? The Bible says so. ;)
     
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    Scripture says God knew babies before he formed them in the womb. So, I guess he knew in advance he was just creating another infant sacrifice, to die holy and blameless, like his only son that he predestined to be an innocent human sacrifice! ;)

    Only the babies are more fortunate, they are not all that aware of their demise, their suffering far less, and they go before the judge on judgement day, without spot, blemish, sins, or crimes to stir up God's wrath and chastisements!
     
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    Hi Spiderman. Good evening. We don't know whether that baby that was aborted would have ended up as the next Hitler, or the next John the Baptist. The point is, we do not know. As a result of the fact that we do not know, we cannot terminate that baby. If we train that child properly, and nurture it in the ways of Yahweh, then it may be that that child will become a righteous individual (Proverbs 22:6). Herod tried to kill Yahshua the Messiah, by killing all children under the age of two years old. Without Yahshua, we would not have a sin-bearer and we would be drowning in our sins. I won't get in the whole argument of nature vs nurture, but it is possible to teach a child to keep the commandments, ultimately however, the decision is that child's. We can encourage that child to follow the ways of Yahweh by being an example of righteousness ourselves.

    Yahweh did command with the conquest of Israel that the wicked people's around them be put to death, but this was to ensure the preservation of Israel. Yahweh is concerned for the spiritual state of His people. If the children were able to grow up, and the adults had been put to death in the wars that occurred, how would it be explained to those children about their parents? Who would raise those children? And wouldn't the likelihood be that those children would grow up to resent and hate bitterly the Israelites and Yahweh therefore ensuring that they not only wouldn't be kingdom bound but try to cause as much problems for Israel as possible? You also have to realise that Israel did not always follow the command to kill all the inhabitants of the land and they became as thorns in their sides, just as Moses prophesied (Numbers 33:55). The people of the nations are going to continue to sin, but Yahweh was chiefly concerned about the preservation of those who had made a covenant with Him.

    I don't know why people immediately go to the fact that people who get raped should be allowed an abortion. How about the saying, two wrongs do not make a right? The child hasn't done anything wrong, why then would it be OK to terminate their life. I'm not unsympathetic towards those who are raped, however, if raising that child would be too difficult for them, then they always alternatives to consider which do not result in the loss of life. You are right Spiderman, abortion hurts people. Emotionally it can do a great deal of damage. I sure wouldn't want the death of a child on my conscience.

    Yahweh is all for the preservation of life. We can see this through the sixth commandment. Sometimes He destroyed other lives to preserve the lives of His people, those that were trying to do His Will.
     
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    The notion of earthly demised children receiving an automatic pass to heaven by God without our Lord's trials or tribulations comforts me. ...:)

     
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    Genghis Khan dealt with a lot of orphans, he conquered 40% of the world. He adopted them, and gave many of them decent lives, even welcomed them in the top ranks of his military and government. He also welcomed prisoners of war into his military, even let them be top officers, including the one who shot and killed his horse out from under him.

    I guess the great Genghis Khan was more humane and merciful than the God of Scripture. He also didn't kill nearly as many people for crimes they never committed, or crimes that should never have received the death penalty, like God ordering death for working on Saturday. ;)
     
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    Sabbath breaking has not been a capital offense since our Lord and Savior's disciples harvested what and J.C. had healed the sick on the Sabbath. ...:)
     
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