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God and homosexuality.

leov

Well-Known Member
The LORD forbids it for Jewish males. Nowhere do I read that God does not like it. The LORD is the covenant between the Jews, an expression of deity but not the deity itself. To claim that God generally does not like something forbidden to Jewish males you'll need to make a stronger case, find more examples. There could be reasons why Jewish males are forbidden from this, ones specific to their circumcision. To over generalize is a mistake.
OT was written for Hebrew people. God cultivated Sons of Israel, trying to preserve Abraham's genetics, right? Homosexuality was a bad outcome, as well as eating shell fish, for example. Eating of shell fish potentially harmful to one person who ate it, but homosexuality harms (infections) a lot of people now and in the future . There is no punishment for eating shell fish but it is for practicing homosexuals because it harms community.
 

leov

Well-Known Member
Your fascination and fixation with male homosexuality, especially gay anal sex, is rather... disturbing. o_O
I think that there is lack of knowledge in this area of why God did now want Israeli to associate with some things.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
There is no punishment for eating shell fish but it is for practicing homosexuals because it harms community.
But you never say how homosexuals harm the community. You just keep saying it, along with other demonstrably false things.
Tom
 

leov

Well-Known Member
But you never say how homosexuals harm the community. You just keep saying it, along with other demonstrably false things.
Tom
In the world of no sanitation homosexuality was unquenchable sourse of bad infections for the entire people of Israel.
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
OT was written for Hebrew people. God cultivated Sons of Israel, trying to preserve Abraham's genetics, right? Homosexuality was a bad outcome, as well as eating shell fish, for example. Eating of shell fish potentially harmful to one person who ate it, but homosexuality harms (infections) a lot of people now and in the future . There is no punishment for eating shell fish but it is for practicing homosexuals because it harms community.
Hell no. Jews are the mutts of the world, more mutty than Brits. They absolutely believe that all people share the same blood. Blood is red. Red in Hebrew is 'Adam'. One blood, one mother 'Eve', one breath, one humanity. The sign of the covenant is a rainbow. The twelve tribes are represented by different colored stones. Genesis goes into long lists of descendants particularly pointing out that (contrary to the claims of kinds of surrounding nations) that all people have common ancestors. The entire point is that we are all one race. Moses marries a different colored woman and some people complain but are put into their place. The story of the tower of Babel explains the division of people as a conceit of the gods to prevent humans from ascending to heaven. Hell no they aren't trying to preserve Abraham's genetics.
 

leov

Well-Known Member
Hell no. Jews are the mutts of the world, more mutty than Brits. They absolutely believe that all people share the same blood. Blood is red. Red in Hebrew is 'Adam'. One blood, one mother 'Eve', one breath, one humanity. The sign of the covenant is a rainbow. The twelve tribes are represented by different colored stones. Genesis goes into long lists of descendants particularly pointing out that (contrary to the claims of kinds of surrounding nations) that all people have common ancestors. The entire point is that we are all one race. Moses marries a different colored woman and some people complain but are put into their place. The story of the tower of Babel explains the division of people as a conceit of the gods to prevent humans from ascending to heaven. Hell no they aren't trying to preserve Abraham's genetics.
'Israel' means man who sees God, Abraham was archetype and the nation was supposed to carry on.
 
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shmogie

Well-Known Member
If god exists there is no evidence it was anti-gay, it was not a thou shalt not.
Right. Evidence and fact are not the same. It is a fact that God, the only God, revealed in the Bible, finds homosexuality as unacceptable. Perhaps using the poop chute for any purpose other than what it was designed for is unsavory to him. An organ designed to eliminate waste is what it is and it will remain so.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
It's some 3000 years old.
That's exactly why I didn't much bother with it.

Any more than I bother with 3000 year old taxonomy or child rearing techniques. The humans who believed and wrote that were primitive and ignorant.
They didn't even know where babies come from.
Tom
I don think they were ignorant at all. The health laws given in a number of cases were exactly what a wandering tribe needed.

The restrictions on eating scavengers was there because of what they ate. Wild pigs ate anything and were rife with trichonosis.

These laws , most of the time, were for the benefit of the people.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
How about you start by proving your god is more than a (rather unpleasant) character in some old books of myths?
I will as soon as you prove life came from a mix of dead chemicals, or you prove how the universe came into existence.

However, the question is structured with a presupposition that God made folk homosexuals. That is, they are born as homosexuals.

There is no scientific consensus on this, it has not been proven people are born as homosexuals. There certainly is no homosexual gene.
 
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