God and Atheism

[Fool]

Does "absolute" even have beliefs?

no, because once a thing is created, realized, its opposite occurs in order to define it. only the uncreated, like a singular point, has no reference to measure against. when duality occurs, then there can be a measure between point vs counterpoint.

Things get confusing when we noun adjectives.

like describing blue to a person who only sees in black and white, or shades of brown and greys.

 

[columbus]

having made reality....
the rules cannot be set aside for the everyday routing

So, Almighty God is just a term used to flatter god? Not a real thing?
Tom

 

[Fool]

Since God is an anthropomorphism of what the believer considers good or perfect, no: God would be a theist. Theists tend to see theism as a good thing and atheism as a bad thing, so their God would agree with this and reflect this position.

so is science an anthropomorphic realization; when the observer is objective and human? or do you believe a theist can't be scientifically objective?

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Given all the nonsense surrounding the word atheist, I would suggest defining atheist as well....

The nonsense only seems to come from those with an agenda. The meaning of that word is simple. So simple in fact it's built into the word itself.

A - the lack of(see asymmetrical, asymptomatic, atypical, amoral)

Theism - a belief in God or gods.

Atheism - the lack of a belief in God or gods.

Simple as the starting line up of the special Olympics.

 

[McBell]

The nonsense only seems to come from those with an agenda. The meaning of that word is simple. So simple in fact it's built into the word itself.

A - the lack of(see asymmetrical, asymptomatic, atypical, amoral)

Theism - a belief in God or gods.

Atheism - the lack of a belief in God or gods.

Simple as the starting line up of the special Olympics.

Fact is, the nonsense is still there.
In fact, not only is it still there, it dominates the thinking of some people.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

no, because once a thing is created, realized, its opposite occurs in order to define it. only the uncreated, like a singular point, has no reference to measure against. when duality occurs, then there can be a measure between point vs counterpoint.

Then there's your answer: if God is "Absolute" and "Absolute" doesn't have beliefs, then it doesn't believe in God.

like describing blue to a person who only sees in black and white, or shades of brown and greys.

No, not like that. I'm just talking about your use of an adjective as a noun.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

so is science an anthropomorphic realization;

No.

when the observer is objective and human?

Not sure what you mean by this.

or do you believe a theist can't be scientifically objective?

Plenty of theists function quite well in science.

BTW: I get the impression that you don't have a firm grasp on the point I was making in my last post. Do you need me to rephrase it?

 

[Windwalker]

Theists tend to see theism as a good thing and atheism as a bad thing, so their God would agree with this and reflect this position.

I think atheism is a good thing, and therefore God does too.

 

[LuisDantas]

Would God be an atheist?

If I had to guess: an ignostic and apatheist.

 

[Fool]

Then there's your answer: if God is "Absolute" and "Absolute" doesn't have beliefs, then it doesn't believe in God.

lack of belief then doesn't equate to a lack of knowing itself? it just doesn't believe in something apart from itself?

No, not like that. I'm just talking about your use of an adjective as a noun.

maybe thinking of it in terms of, the absolute Self, would help? Like the paramatman vs the atman. Supreme being, or absolute being.

https://www.grammarly.com/answers/questions/15695-can-an-adjective-become-a-noun/

 

[Fool]

The nonsense only seems to come from those with an agenda. The meaning of that word is simple. So simple in fact it's built into the word itself.

A - the lack of(see asymmetrical, asymptomatic, atypical, amoral)

Theism - a belief in God or gods.

Atheism - the lack of a belief in God or gods.

Simple as the starting line up of the special Olympics.

a belief/disbelief in something doesn't equate to the lack of belief.

a negative belief is still a belief. like a negative integer is still an integer, or matter vs anti-matter, or light energy vs dark energy.

one is simply the lack of the other along a spectrum.

a starting lineup doesn't require a runner. a door doesn't require someone to always be walking through it.

 

[columbus]

gravity must be gravity
do not step from a high place expecting the angel to catch you

This is true.
Which is why I see gravity as a better "image of (or metaphor for) God" than the standard religious image of god, which more resembles a human with superpowers.
Tom

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

lack of belief then doesn't equate lack of knowing itself? it just doesn't believe in something apart from itself?

I feel like I'm talking to a chatbot. Don't you remember what you've said so far?

Define god

Absolute

Does "absolute" even have beliefs?

no,

 

[Fool]

I feel like I'm talking to a chatbot. Don't you remember what you've said so far?

yes, please allow me to restate.

it would have knowledge that there is nothing apart from itself. it would not hold belief because it isn't lacking in knowledge. belief is not possible to all knowing; if all is absolute. the all would know everything about all, or itself.

THE ALL IS MIND; The Universe is Mental."--The Kybalion.

The Universe May Be Conscious, Say Prominent Scientists

Neuroscience's New Consciousness Theory Is Spiritual | HuffPost

 

[BilliardsBall]

Would God be an atheist?

Do you deny that you exist also?

 

[Fool]

Do you deny that you exist also?

the personality is temporal and illusory, yes. the personality has had many forms throughout its time/space anamoly.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

yes, please allow me to restate.

it would have knowledge that there is nothing apart from itself. it would not hold belief because it isn't lacking in knowledge. belief is not possible to all knowing; if all is absolute. the all would know everything about all, or itself.

THE ALL IS MIND; The Universe is Mental."--The Kybalion.

The Universe May Be Conscious, Say Prominent Scientists

Neuroscience's New Consciousness Theory Is Spiritual | HuffPost

But knowledge is a type of belief.

 

[McBell]

Do you deny that you exist also?

If you think your god is a theist, what god does your god believe in?

 

[Fool]

But knowledge is a type of belief.

belief lacks all knowledge. the belief contains a percentage of knowledge and the rest is hypothesized. it isn't all knowing, or all knowledge.


Chart of James Fowler's Stages of Faith | psychologycharts.com

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

a belief/disbelief in something doesn't equate to the lack of belief.

a negative belief is still a belief. like a negative integer is still an integer, or matter vs anti-matter, or light energy vs dark energy.

one is simply the lack of the other along a spectrum.

a starting lineup doesn't require a runner. a door doesn't require someone to always be walking through it.

Is an empty hole a type of puddle?