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Featured God’s Method of delivering messages, is it flawed?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Trailblazer, Sep 20, 2020.

  1. Amanaki

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    If you did, you would not attack @Trailblazer the way you do. You directly attacket her personal understand of Baha'i teaching, and you can not back it up even 1%
    Time to stop your quest to harm other peoples belief
     
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  2. PAUL MARKHAM

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    I have nothing good to say about all religions. TB has made this thread about Baha'is and I've pointed out the flaws. If he wants to make it about all religions I would still hold the same opinion.

    Countries, where religion has a hand in government, aren't a fine example of the way to go.
     
  3. PAUL MARKHAM

    PAUL MARKHAM Active Member

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    Is this just me or everyone who disagrees with her?

    I disagree with Tony and you when you say something I can see fault in.

    Yes, I attack the understanding of Baha teaching. And Islam, And Christianity, And every other religion.
     
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  4. Amanaki

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    Why are you in a religioues forum if you have nothing good to say?
     
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  5. Amanaki

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    I am against you way of disrespect anyone you disagree with, but you harras @Trailblazer for 113 pages in this thread, time to stop
     
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  6. PAUL MARKHAM

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    I'm saying what is the best way to convert everyone to 1 religion. Without that aim the whole thing descends into the mess we have today.

    We've seen many empires rise and fall and with it their religion. The civilisations of South America are a fine example of this. The surviving religions are only the ones with the biggest, best armies. So why not go straight to the engineer and avoid the oiling rag?

    Judaism isn't a great religion because the tribe of Israel isn't a great tribe. So why did god start there when Egypt was a great empire?
     
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    Religion is not about war
     
  8. PAUL MARKHAM

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    So there are no religious wars. Got it!!!
     
  9. Amanaki

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    People fight, not the teaching of religion
     
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    Still it is human being who fight each other, because of ego, they say you must die because you believe diffthen we do.
    That is of course not what God want us to do.
     
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    I agree and disagree with you here.

    Is it the firm belief that your side is right that drives people to wage war on others?

    Is religion just an excuse to grab power?

    Both answers are correct even if the actual religion preaches otherwise.

    The inbuilt tendency by humans to fight each other is one of the reasons I can't support Baha'ism.

    You believe in god. I can prove that most of the earliest writings about god are untrue.

    did mohammed wage war - Google Search

    They pledged their readiness to wage war against Muhammad's enemies, while Muhammad also declared his readiness to wage war against the Jews of Medina.[a] The Meccans, who heard rumours of this meeting and realized that this was a call to war, failed an attempt to assassinate Muhammad in May 622. Muhammad fled, together with his companion Abu Bakr, to Medina, in what is known as the Hijra.

    Military career of Muhammad - Wikipedia

    Military career of Muhammad - Wikipedia

    There's a lot more that shows Mohammed did go to battle or his followers did.
     
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  13. Amanaki

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    I am not going in to a discussion about Baha’i or Islam with you, because you have no respect for any religion. All you do is to do your best to find error or fault you think harm religion.

    I see religion as the best that has happened to human kind.
    When practice correct religion elevate the person to become morality good.
     
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    Either

    1. You're so desperate right now and just trying to make any excuses don't matter if dumb or not.

    2. You're irrational, and think "every" = "most"

    3. Your supposed infallible messenger of god was too dumb to not know the difference between "every" and "most."

    4. You think you're some "special" messenger that know more than your own scripture written by a "TRUE" messenger of God.

    Or.........the correct answer to the title of this thread #5

    5. It's a flawed method and your ego is just too big to admit that.

    So smart and wise your god is, that he forgot that it was him who teared down the Tower of Babal and spread humanity and changed their language, so gave his message to an Arabic or maybe Persian speaking man and never thought about it getting lost in translation.

    On second thought, I just remembered that you said he doesn't care about humanity. So maybe your right, at least don't care about the English speaking humans. Making at least one human into thinking that "every" really means "most."
     
  15. PAUL MARKHAM

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    When people take only the good things and keep to them religion can be good. The problem as you've said is humans aren't like that. Some will take the bad things and use it to dominate the rest.

    The 10 Worst Old Testament Verses by Dan Barker - Freedom From Religion Foundation

    Violence in the Quran - Wikipedia

    New Testament Cruelty
     
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    So it might have taken over 100 pages, but with everyone working together, we finally found the answer to the title of this thread.

    FeaturedGod’s Method of delivering messages, is it flawed? YES

    I like to thank EVERY human that helped, especially Trailblazer, the one who figured out the answer. Keep in mind that I'm not thanking all who help, just most of you.;)
     
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    No comment!!!
     
  18. Amanaki

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    I went to far in my critique in the post i have now deleted.

    Sorry
     
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  19. night912

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    Stop the harrassment of those who BELIEVE their BELIEFS are true and those without any religion.

    If you do believe in any religion, no problem but for crying out loud
    HAVE RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE A RELIGIOUES BELIEF. HAVE RESPECT FOR THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY CAN BELIEVE TEACHINGS EVERYONE DO UNDERSTAND

    **mod edit**
     
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    @night912 and @PAUL MARKHAM,

    I have no intention of getting involved in the debate on whether or not God exists, but I take exception to both of your behaviors in this thread.

    If someone claims to have knowledge of something that you don't, and you are making a positive claim that that knowledge is false, the onus is on you to prove that knowledge is false.

    That said, you've both made your point here, and rather than belaboring the point and beating a dead horse, I think your unjustified end-zone celebration has gone on long enough. Time to move on and either get back on topic or find another thread to play in.

    Your antics have the staff's attention.
     
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