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Global Governance

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
What do you think, are things being put in place for a world government where everyone’s personal information and activity will be monitored and eventually controlled?



How the Coronavirus Sets the Stage for the End Times :: By Britt Gillette - Rapture Ready


Because the world is as it is, many individual governments must collect massive amounts of information to do what people need to do -to defend the country, etc.
Technically, it could also be said that such is used by law enforcement to control peoples' unlawful actions.
That's the best case scenario.

The trouble is that it is not just well-meaning governments trying to do their job. Anyone is able to use any information they can access -from petty criminals on up.
There needn't be an actual one world government -only widespread influence.

Some believe the mark of the beast to be be an actual mark of some kind, but it is in what you do, believe and submit to -IN the forehead and hand, as it were -as are God's commandments, sabbath, holy days, etc.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Fundamentalists just can't snap out of their prophecy delusions
Well, since those who believe the Creator knows the future as no other, why should or would they ignore the revealed information He’s given. On the other hand, to do so seems quite delusional and to remain in a state oblivious to what is taking place before one’s eyes.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Well, since those who believe the Creator knows the future as no other, why should or would they ignore the revealed information He’s given. On the other hand, to do so seems quite delusional and to remain in a state oblivious to what is taking place before one’s eyes.

Well you all need to get your act together, because no two of you can agree on prophecy.
I suppose this would be the point where you roll out the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy that all TRUE Christians agree on prophecy.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Because the world is as it is, many individual governments must collect massive amounts of information to do what people need to do -to defend the country, etc.
Technically, it could also be said that such is used by law enforcement to control peoples' unlawful actions.
That's the best case scenario.

The trouble is that it is not just well-meaning governments trying to do their job. Anyone is able to use any information they can access -from petty criminals on up.
There needn't be an actual one world government -only widespread influence.

Some believe the mark of the beast to be be an actual mark of some kind, but it is in what you do, believe and submit to -IN the forehead and hand, as it were -as are God's commandments, sabbath, holy days, etc.
I understand and appreciate your thoughts. True, anyone can use information, so the concern would be who would use or control such information and how on a large scale or as the scriptures appear to indicate on a world scale. With the technology in place it does not seem at all unlikely that the mark will be a type of microchip inserted in the hand or forehead tied into the world government system and allegiance to whoever runs it.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Well you all need to get your act together, because no two of you can agree on prophecy.
I suppose this would be the point where you roll out the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy that all TRUE Christians agree on prophecy.
Christians have different views. Some may be closer to or further from the scriptures, but that doesn’t invalidate the prophesies in the Bible. Lining one’s understanding up with the scriptures in an ongoing process.

Irregardless, your claim that “no two” can agree on prophecy is a complete exaggeration and simply not true.
 

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
I understand and appreciate your thoughts. True, anyone can use information, so the concern would be who would use or control such information and how on a large scale or as the scriptures appear to indicate on a world scale. With the technology in place it does not seem at all unlikely that the mark will be a type of microchip inserted in the hand or forehead tied into the world government system and allegiance to whoever runs it.
It happened even before the technology was in place. Also -technology is something which may not be refused if imposed against will. Decision may be refused.

If some were that insistent..... a chip in the forehead or hand could be implanted not only without will -but without knowledge.

Those who have kept the commandments, sabbath and holy days of God have been kept from this or that throughout history -because others recognized such. It did not require technology -only some noticing the practices of others.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
What do you think, are things being put in place for a world government where everyone’s personal information and activity will be monitored and eventually controlled?



How the Coronavirus Sets the Stage for the End Times :: By Britt Gillette - Rapture Ready
What's absurd is trusting the MSM or the governments of this world. We no longer believe or support them.

You should start studying gematria and numerology ... not to practice it. It's witchcraft and to properly use it you must have help from a "spirit guide" or "familiar spirit". I would not suggest that for obvious reasons ... But studying these occult numbers and symbology is wise; so you see through the deceptions of these kind of people who currently rule the world.

In Daniel 12:10 we see that only the wise will understand.

Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Then in Revelation 13:18 we see that "here is wisdom". So if you want to be "wise" to understand these times you need to be able to count the numbers that the conspiracy of satan is using. Because they (the assembly of satan) are using these numbers.

Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

In short ... it is their religion that everything must be encoded by the "numbers" for it to be successful. So if you pay attention to the numbers they use then you can see through their deceptions and plans. With God's help.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
What do you think, are things being put in place for a world government where everyone’s personal information and activity will be monitored and eventually controlled?



How the Coronavirus Sets the Stage for the End Times :: By Britt Gillette - Rapture Ready
No.

And you and yours have been pushing this particular barrow for 100 years, breathlessly declaring at every notable global event "this is it! No, this time for real, absolutely no, really, I'm serious this time!"

Give it a rest already.

And learn to extrapolate from past experiences.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
What do you think, are things being put in place for a world government where everyone’s personal information and activity will be monitored and eventually controlled?

Reading through your cited article I can't say that I agree with everything, but the Revelation does speak of a world government that will take control, with all nations supporting it....and the first thing it will do, according to scripture, is to shut down religion. Perhaps it is to remove the friction that causes religious wars and hatreds....or perhaps it is to get their hands on the vast wealth that these institutions have, in an economically sick situation. In any case it will mean totalitarian rule because it says we will need "the mark of the wild beast" in order to obtain any goods or services. There will be no "buying or selling" without that mark, which for Christians will be an impossible betrayal....because it means worshipping the wild beast and its image....(Revelation 17:11-13) which will be a man made substitute for God's Kingdom....promising a single world government to deliver good things to the whole world.....but instead, delivering oppression and loss of all freedoms.

Revelation 13:16-17...
"It puts under compulsion all people—the small and the great, the rich and the poor, the free and the slaves—that these should be marked on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and that nobody can buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name."

There is no doubt that the world is being prepared for this shift in government....it used to be called the "new world order" but "globalization" is used more these days. It will indeed be interesting to see if they promise "peace and security" because that is when God steps in to show them who is the rightful Sovereign of the Universe.

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3...
"Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know very well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman, and they will by no means escape."

We take a wait and see approach because nothing and no one can stop what is going to happen.....best we be on the right side when the crunch comes.....because I believe it is not too far away.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Did you read the article? Just wondering because I don’t think fear is the point.

Yes, I read the article, and fear is the elephant in the room misrepresenting the pandemic in a fear based religious agenda, This has happened in previous pandemics and other catastrophic circumstances and the 'End Times' never happened.
 
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Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Did you read the article? For the most part it was not about the virus itself.
People have been calling for unification since the telegraph, but other people have resisted them. Notice that Britain quit from the EU because of its creeping, invasive attempt at globalization? The British didn't think it was appropriate that their government be subsumed. Many states opted out of the USSR, shattering it to pieces. Many US states keep bringing up secession as a possibility.

I don't see why he thinks cryptocurrency is scary rather than plastic cards. Plastic=surveillance. Cryptocurrency is cash and trackers hate cash. Rather than cryptocurrency he should be worried that everyone will be required to use plastic. Cryptocurrency actually would be like cash and would allow people to buy and sell anonymously. The only danger of crypto is that its so new that there are concerns about failure of its technological basis -- like if its algorithm turns out to be too weak or something like that.

If there were a much worse virus or world war or something like that the world could be conquered. That is the only way I can see such a globalization happen, and even then it couldn't be permanent. Alexander the great did everything he could to unite the world, but it fell apart when he died. The USSR talked like it was a game changer, but it wasn't. China thinks its got the formula, but it doesn't. The USA...we almost broke up. The EU has lost Britain, and its other states are complaining. Look at all those South American countries -- all speaking the same language (except for Brazil), but they've never united. They won't.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
People have been calling for unification since the telegraph, but other people have resisted them. Notice that Britain quit from the EU because of its creeping, invasive attempt at globalization? The British didn't think it was appropriate that their government be subsumed. Many states opted out of the USSR, shattering it to pieces. Many US states keep bringing up secession as a possibility.

I don't see why he thinks cryptocurrency is scary rather than plastic cards. Plastic=surveillance. Cryptocurrency is cash and trackers hate cash. Rather than cryptocurrency he should be worried that everyone will be required to use plastic. Cryptocurrency actually would be like cash and would allow people to buy and sell anonymously. The only danger of crypto is that its so new that there are concerns about failure of its technological basis -- like if its algorithm turns out to be too weak or something like that.

If there were a much worse virus or world war or something like that the world could be conquered. That is the only way I can see such a globalization happen, and even then it couldn't be permanent. Alexander the great did everything he could to unite the world, but it fell apart when he died. The USSR talked like it was a game changer, but it wasn't. China thinks its got the formula, but it doesn't. The USA...we almost broke up. The EU has lost Britain, and its other states are complaining. Look at all those South American countries -- all speaking the same language (except for Brazil), but they've never united. They won't.
Quite.

And today we have hideous "strongman" nationalism striding the Earth once more, as we last did in the 1930s: Trump, Bolsonaro, Erdogan, Duterte, Putin, Xi, Orban, Modi........ (In the UK, we even have our own pale shadow of this trend in slightly-weakman Bozolini;). )

One thing you can guarantee is that nationalists are not going to cooperate to create a world government - the clue is in the name.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
I appreciate the posts shared and reading everyone’s various thoughts. Thanks. I’ll try to respond more individually later when I have the opportunity.
For now here is a further perspective for anyone interested...


“Scientific American reported in December that Gates had been funding efforts to create an invisible ink that could go into people’s skin to see who has been vaccinated. A Massachusetts Institute of Technology bioengineer said the ink could provide data that is useful in fighting disease around the world, noting, “If we don’t have good data, it’s really difficult to eradicate disease.”

A review by Media Matters stated that the conspiracy theory first seemed to gain traction around March 17 when a YouTube video about the virus “mischaracterized” Gates’ work to develop trackable vaccine data as “implanting everybody with a global ID,” and compared it to tattoos on Holocaust victims.

Newsmax White House correspondent Emerald Robinson recently claimed that Gates wants to use “vaccines to track people,” while Fox News host Laura Ingraham—who has met with Trump to discuss the coronavirus—tweeted that Gates and other “globalists” want to use the crisis to track people. Gates’ name appeared on protest signs meant to criticize Ohio’s social distancing order, while former Trump adviser Roger Stone accused Gates of wanting to “microchip” people.

Pro-Trump personalities and regular Trump White House guests “Diamond and Silk” have also pushed conspiracy theories about Gates, tweeting that the Microsoft founder was operating on a secretive “agenda” to “rule the world with vaccines,” and vowing not to take any coronavirus vaccine that Gates was involved with.

None of these reports about Gates will ever be reported positively by the liberal media, so few people know about his agenda. Since you would have to have an understanding of Bible prophecy to know the dangers of a vaccine that could be tracked, most people would think of it as a good idea.

Much of our modern technology could become very hazardous to our liberties if it was used by a despotic government. Apple and Google are working together on a Coronavirus Tracking App. Smart phones already ‘automatically exchange their identifier beacons with each other. If someone tests positive for the Coronavirus, the app can send a message to all smartphones that came in contact with that person. Apple and Google say the app is ‘voluntary’ in the beginning; it will not be voluntary after they build it into the operating system software.

The mark of the beast is no longer something of the future. I think China’s social credit system is a working model of the Number of the Beast. By the time the Antichrist comes along to make it official, the world openly embraces its financial enslavement.”

Rapture Ready - Nearing Midnight Weekly Commentary
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I appreciate the posts shared and reading everyone’s various thoughts. Thanks. I’ll try to respond more individually later when I have the opportunity.
For now here is a further perspective for anyone interested...


“Scientific American reported in December that Gates had been funding efforts to create an invisible ink that could go into people’s skin to see who has been vaccinated. A Massachusetts Institute of Technology bioengineer said the ink could provide data that is useful in fighting disease around the world, noting, “If we don’t have good data, it’s really difficult to eradicate disease.”

A review by Media Matters stated that the conspiracy theory first seemed to gain traction around March 17 when a YouTube video about the virus “mischaracterized” Gates’ work to develop trackable vaccine data as “implanting everybody with a global ID,” and compared it to tattoos on Holocaust victims.

Newsmax White House correspondent Emerald Robinson recently claimed that Gates wants to use “vaccines to track people,” while Fox News host Laura Ingraham—who has met with Trump to discuss the coronavirus—tweeted that Gates and other “globalists” want to use the crisis to track people. Gates’ name appeared on protest signs meant to criticize Ohio’s social distancing order, while former Trump adviser Roger Stone accused Gates of wanting to “microchip” people.

Pro-Trump personalities and regular Trump White House guests “Diamond and Silk” have also pushed conspiracy theories about Gates, tweeting that the Microsoft founder was operating on a secretive “agenda” to “rule the world with vaccines,” and vowing not to take any coronavirus vaccine that Gates was involved with.

None of these reports about Gates will ever be reported positively by the liberal media, so few people know about his agenda. Since you would have to have an understanding of Bible prophecy to know the dangers of a vaccine that could be tracked, most people would think of it as a good idea.

Much of our modern technology could become very hazardous to our liberties if it was used by a despotic government. Apple and Google are working together on a Coronavirus Tracking App. Smart phones already ‘automatically exchange their identifier beacons with each other. If someone tests positive for the Coronavirus, the app can send a message to all smartphones that came in contact with that person. Apple and Google say the app is ‘voluntary’ in the beginning; it will not be voluntary after they build it into the operating system software.

The mark of the beast is no longer something of the future. I think China’s social credit system is a working model of the Number of the Beast. By the time the Antichrist comes along to make it official, the world openly embraces its financial enslavement.”

Rapture Ready - Nearing Midnight Weekly Commentary
Here is the Scientific American article: Invisible Ink Could Reveal whether Kids Have Been Vaccinated

MIT has the idea of a an invisible skin tattoo to record a child's vaccination records. This is an idea for use in the developing world, where there are no reliable medical records, to show what individuals have had what vaccinations.

Gates, who as we all know, has a philanthropic foundation devoted to improving health in the developing world, supports this initiative.

That's it.

The rest is paranoid and malicious invention, without a shred of evidence to support it.

"Ruling the world with vaccines" is an imbecile notion. How the hell would that work?
 

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
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Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member

Hence separation of powers:

Separation of powers, therefore, refers to the division of responsibilities into distinct branches of government by limiting any one branch from exercising the core functions of another. The intent of separation of powers is to prevent the concentration of power by providing for checks and balances.

Separation of powers - Wikipedia
 
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