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Featured Give me Truth.

Discussion in 'Seekers Circle' started by Frog, Aug 26, 2018.

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  1. Frog

    Frog Cult of Kek.

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    Right now, I want you to breakdown step-by-step, or crunched down to your best, the very best possible explanation you have at this moment, of the secrets of life and the universe, and what they resonate to you.

    If everything is relative and sits under the lamp of truth, which is absolute, you should have no problem freely expressing your ultimate picture of the universe unscrutinized and unscrupulous under its light knowing full well that everything that cometh from the human mouth is filtered and an crafted lie.
    That which is perceiveth and thrown into words and uttered is filtered by that very organ to which Jesus fought with and is hereby proclaim Satan or the Human Mind.

    But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man.”
     

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  2. crossfire

    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    By definition, truth is not "absolute," it is a relational statement. The map is not the territory.
     
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    Truth never changes. By definition truth is considered that of actuality and cant be negotiated. You could see it almost as being dished out by nature or God and is nonnegotiable.
     
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    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    What if change is the norm of reality?
     
  5. Frog

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    The truth of reality is witnessed before reality.
     
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    See the part highlighted in red in the definition of true. If that isn't negotiation, I don't know what is.
    true
    tro͞o/
    adjective
    adjective: true; comparative adjective: truer; superlative adjective: truest
    1. 1.
      in accordance with fact or reality.
      "a true story"
      synonyms: correct, accurate, right, verifiable, in accordance with the facts, what actually/really happened, well documented, the case, so; More
      literal, factual, unelaborated, unvarnished
      "you'll see that what I say is true"
      antonyms: untrue, false, fallacious
      • rightly or strictly so called; genuine.
        "people are still willing to pay for true craftsmanship"
        synonyms: genuine, authentic, real, actual, bona fide, proper; More
        honest-to-goodness, kosher, legit, the real McCoy
        "people are still willing to pay for true craftsmanship"
        rightful, legitimate, legal, lawful, authorized, bona fide, de jure
        "the true owner of the goods"
        sincere, genuine, real, unfeigned, heartfelt, hearty, from the heart
        "the necessity for true repentance"
        antonyms: bogus, phony, de facto, insincere, feigned
      • real or actual.
        "he has guessed my true intentions"
      • said when conceding a point in argument or discussion.
        "true, it faced north, but you got used to that"
    2. 2.
      accurate or exact.
      "it was a true depiction"
      synonyms: accurate, true to life, faithful, telling it like it is, fact-based, realistic, close, lifelike
      "a true reflection of life in the 50s"
      antonyms: inaccurate
      • (of a note) exactly in tune.
      • (of a compass bearing) measured relative to true north.
        "steer 085 degrees true"
      • correctly positioned, balanced, or aligned; upright or level.
    3. 3.
      loyal or faithful.
      "he was a true friend"
      synonyms: loyal, faithful, constant, devoted, staunch, steadfast, true-blue, unswerving, unwavering; More
      trustworthy, trusty, reliable, dependable
      "a true friend"
      antonyms: disloyal, faithless
      • accurately conforming to (a standard or expectation); faithful to.
        "this entirely new production remains true to the essence of Lorca's play"
    4. 4.
      archaic
      honest.
      "we appeal to all good men and true to rally to us"
    adverb
    adverb: true
    1. 1.
      literary
      truly.
      "Hobson spoke truer than he knew"
    2. 2.
      accurately or without variation.
    verb
    verb: true; 3rd person present: trues; past tense: trued; past participle: trued; gerund or present participle: truing; gerund or present participle: trueing
    1. 1.
      bring (an object, wheel, or other construction) into the exact shape, alignment, or position required.
     
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    Was hoping to have a serious agrument but seems people would rather play games, post nonsense. True and Truth are completely different words.
    Your definition of Truth has nothing to do with Truth but of the word "true" which has to do with the correction of misaligned wheels on a grocery cart. sigh...:(
     
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  9. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Shrugs. I tried.

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    Truth: life and death. We are born. We live. We die. That's it. That's a fact. The key is living and find comfort in the fact of dying. Comfortable with not existing anymore.

    Having seen what has come to be As having come to be, Passing beyond what has come to be, They are released in accordance with truth By exhausting the craving for being. When a bhikkhu has fully understood That which has come to be as such, Free from craving to be this or that, By the extinction of what has come to be He comes no more to renewal of being. Itivuttaka: The Group of Twos and Udaya Sutta: Breaking the Cycle
    I would not call it the secrets of the universe. It isnt mystical or spirit-ual just a fact of life, type of thing. It doesnt resonate as in a feeling of "spirit" in the hearts one would experience with some form of gods. Its not atheistic since deities do exist (per whats known in some lineages) and rebirth as well. Its more do we want to practice it.

    A lot of people feel they will live for eternity in spirit; so, the idea of not existing isnt comfortable as a fact and truth. It can be philosophized and pondered; but, thats with anything.

    As for god and satan, Im not familiar with that especially in relation to reality as I know it.



     
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    Change is Truth. Its absolute. Thats the ironic thing about it. That absolute truth is the fact of change. We are moved into existence.
     
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    What if the spirit never existed? The spirit is immaterial and cannot die, it exists therefore forever into infinity and beyond.
     
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    Truth is everything.
     
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    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    I'm curious why you think we should answer to you.
     
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    Maybe to those who fail it understand its concept
    The world can be reduced to platitudes, but it seems humans try there hardest to over simplify/complicate it.
     
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    What do you mean by everything?
     
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    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    Truth can never be found in the intellect, or in words. It's a pointless exercise.
     
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    Relative true statements can, but truth itself? Never.
     
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    Truth can't change, else it's not truth

    Truth can't be found on earth [always changing]
    Truth can't be perceived by our 5 outward senses
    Truth can't be found by intellect, nor in our own mind

    Truth ...
     
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