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Giulliano about to be indicted

Callisto

Hellenismos, BTW
I agree with you 100%, and I think the real "kicker" could be if Trump loses in 2020 and refuses to step down by tying it up in the courts while claiming voter fraud. I think he well might do this because the day he's out of office is the day he could be indicted.

However, Putin would maybe take him in since Trump trusts him far more than our own 17 intelligence agencies.:emojconfused:

Trump can't stay in office. Firstly, he can't claim his opponent won via some kind of voter fraud when he himself has been caught inviting foreign interference THREE times between two elections meanwhile there will not, of course, have been any by his opponent. Regardless, even if he barricades himself in the Oval Office, it's doesn't matter. The power of office resides with/wherever the (newly sworn in) POTUS is. Secondly, any contested outcome, if there was any valid question raised, would likely be decided by the Supreme Court, like in 2000 due to the "hanging chad" debacle in Florida. Though before it ever would reach the SC, Congress would be obligated to tell him to hit the bricks.

But yes, he's a blubbering coward and is deathly afraid of what awaits him after he's thrown out by either impeachment or election.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Trump isn't an accomplished executive.. Like you said.. He's run a small mom and pop business and he's had lots and lots of failures and bankruptcies ..

6 bankruptcies from 400 companies is above the national average by a factor hundreds. Business failure rates are close to 50% within 5 years. Do the math.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Trump can't stay in office. Firstly, he can't claim his opponent won via some kind of voter fraud when he himself has been caught inviting foreign interference THREE times between two elections meanwhile there will not, of course, have been any by his opponent. Regardless, even if he barricades himself in the Oval Office, it's doesn't matter. The power of office resides with/wherever the (newly sworn in) POTUS is. Secondly, any contested outcome, if there was any valid question raised, would likely be decided by the Supreme Court, like in 2000 due to the "hanging chad" debacle in Florida. Though before it ever would reach the SC, Congress would be obligated to tell him to hit the bricks.

But yes, he's a blubbering coward and is deathly afraid of what awaits him after he's thrown out by either impeachment or election.

Lutsenko says the Bidens did nothing wrong. Giuliani was paid $500,000 and Bolton called him a hand grenade..
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Never declared bankruptcy.



Still producing in limited numbers, never declared bankruptcy




Discounted.



Actually declared bankruptcy.

Even including business he closed his record is still an example of success giving the rates.

10 of Donald Trump’s Business That Completely Failed

  1. Trump Airlines.
  2. Trump Vodka.
  3. Trump Magazine.
  4. Trump University.
  5. Trump: The Game.
  6. ... (more items)
10 of Donald Trump's Business That Completely Failed - Toptenz.net
www.toptenz.net/10-of-donald-trumps-business-that-completely-failed.php
 

sooda

Veteran Member
The New York Times rates 61 of Donald Trump's business deals, concludes 40% failed. Donald Trump and Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili unveil plans for a luxury apartment complex to be built along the Black Sea coast in Batumi, Georgia, on April 22, 2012.
 

Callisto

Hellenismos, BTW
Lutsenko says the Bidens did nothing wrong. Giuliani was paid $500,000 and Bolton called him a hand grenade..

More than that:

"Fiona Hill, the White House’s former top Russia adviser, told impeachment investigators on Monday that Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, ran a shadow foreign policy in Ukraine that circumvented U.S. officials and career diplomats in order to personally benefit President Trump, according to people familiar with her testimony."

Source: Washington Post
 

sooda

Veteran Member
More than that:

"Fiona Hill, the White House’s former top Russia adviser, told impeachment investigators on Monday that Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, ran a shadow foreign policy in Ukraine that circumvented U.S. officials and career diplomats in order to personally benefit President Trump, according to people familiar with her testimony."

Source: Washington Post


Actually, that makes sense.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
More than that:

"Fiona Hill, the White House’s former top Russia adviser, told impeachment investigators on Monday that Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, ran a shadow foreign policy in Ukraine that circumvented U.S. officials and career diplomats in order to personally benefit President Trump, according to people familiar with her testimony."

Source: Washington Post


Giuliani had to get rid of the US Ambassador.
 

Callisto

Hellenismos, BTW
Giuliani had to get rid of the US Ambassador.

Get rid of the ambassador by creating lies she wasn't doing her job, yet don't replace her with someone who supposedly could. Leave the post empty so Rudy is unimpeded and use a flying monkey (Sondland) to assist via "special assignments".
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Get rid of the ambassador by creating lies she wasn't doing her job, yet don't replace her with someone who supposedly could. Leave the post empty so Rudy is unimpeded and use a flying monkey (Sondland) to assist via "special assignments".
Trump and his associates are such a venal bunch.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
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