George Soros Funds Support For Defund The Police

[Estro Felino]

OK, so you don't.
Defund the police is a proposed program to reform the police by taking responsibilities away from them. Mostly things they aren't equipped to do anyway, crisis intervention for example. Of course those new services need funding and as they do a job then that was formerly done by the police (badly), the funds will be taken from the police. So it's not simply defunding but a police reform were fund are transferred to other, new agencies.
Whoever thought up that moniker, didn't think it through. Now we have to explain it every time.

That is exactly what I implied.
Do you agree with the idea?

 

[Heyo]

That is exactly what I implied.
Do you agree with the idea?

Welcome to the "defund the police" movement.

 

[Estro Felino]

Welcome to the "defund the police" movement.

If you read my previous posts about the US law enforcement, they are all about that.

 

[Kooky]

If you read my previous posts about the US law enforcement, there were all about that.

If you read the link to the movement's official website I provided - they are not.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Whoever thought up that moniker, didn't think it through. Now we have to explain it every time.

I get it. Part of the idea is that past campaigns for police reform would run into all sorts of roadblocks: police unions, inflexible laws, etc. Part of the "defund the police" movement is the idea that simply cutting funding is a way to get past all of that: maybe a police union won't cooperate with a police board looking to dismiss violent cops under normal circumstances, but maybe they'll be more willing to play ball when the choice is either a pay cut across the board or firing the cops whose actions keep getting the department sued... but this scenario requires cutting the police budget.

Also, the law in some areas gives police forces lots of latitude to set their own policy. Often, the civilian authority overseeing the police (e.g. a city council) only gets to set the overall funding amount, so increasing or decreasing the overall police budget is the only way the civilian authority can exert control over the police force.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Police officers are poor, the police has more money than they need.
But like with a child who hasn't learned to manage her/his budget yet, you cut the budget until they do.

They ought to do that with schools as well.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Police officers are poor, the police has more money than they need.

Police officers are poor?

Around here, the Sunshine List (the list of public sector employees making $100,000 or more per year) is full of cops. And not just higher-ranking cops; lots of frontline constables.

 

[Kooky]

They ought to do that with schools as well.

You mean those publically-funded, privately-run "charter schools" that US conservatives seem to be so fond of?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Doch. Natürlich.

It cannot be useful, unless we blackmail them : "either you reform the system, or we defund you".

No, that's not it. It's "if you reform the system, you will need $____ per year, so that's the most we're willing to fund you to."

The more extreme versions go on to say "we're not willing to pay O&M expenses for, say, a police tank or lawsuit settlements for abusive cops with long records, so you'd better start cutting if you don't want to run out of money for core services."