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Genetic Code is INFORMATION: Proof of Intelligent Design

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Of course it makes sense that if a random process can come up with "berda" it can come up with "beard" or "bread" too. Why not? Just because the word "berda" doesn't make sense to you but the words "beard" and "bread" does it doesn't mean that the words "beard" and "bread" must have been produced by an intelligence does it?

But for these letters to change positions and for each combinations to
have a specific meaning or job can't be due to randomness.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
So then they would have to use logic, reason and common sense to show me wrong.

The first logic is to prove to them that a thing can be produced from nothingness,
How things came to existence? explain it in your logic and reasoning and common sense?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No it doesn't. Just take the letters b and r and a and e and d and put them in a little bag. Empty the bag on a table and from left to right they might spell out "bread" or "beard" or "draeb". No intelligence only randomness required to spell out words that make sense to you.

Ask a cat to scramble them in a bag and not you.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
No it doesn't. Just take the letters b and r and a and e and d and put them in a little bag. Empty the bag on a table and from left to right they might spell out "bread" or "beard" or "draeb". No intelligence only randomness required to spell out words that make sense to you.
Like throwing a bag of pennies on the floor - no combination of how the pennies align is any more miraculous than another. All combinations are possible until they arrange themselves - the final arrangement then gives an illusion of design and function to anyone looking to explain it.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
Ask a cat to scramble them in a bag and not you.
That changes nothing.


Fast forward to about 2:15 and watch how randomness changes into something that looks designed and preferred... This is a natural phenomena - devoid of intelligence or design.
 
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ArtieE

Well-Known Member
But for these letters to change positions
That would be due to random mutations etc.
and for each combinations to
have a specific meaning or job can't be due to randomness.
They don't have a "specific meaning or job" it's just that due to their natural properties the combination "bread" interacts with other molecules in such a way that a bread is produced and the combination "beard" have different natural properties and interacts with other molecules in such a way that a "beard" is produced. Understand that I'm grossly oversimplifying the process for you to understand the principle.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
Will the cat still do?
Sure. If a cat comes by and rips open a bag of "something", eventually you will be able to find a combination of "something" that looks purposeful and intelligently placed because you will find something that you recognize. If you leave that one good combination, and then have the cat do the same action a few hundred times, you'll begin to have a whole collection of things that seem intelligent, or purposeful, or functional. Looking out over all of these purposeful and functional combinations of things, you'll being to wonder... Did my cat create the Universe?

And the answer would still be , no.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
That changes nothing.


Fast forward to about 2:15 and watch how randomness changes into something that looks designed and preferred... This is a natural phenomena - devoid of intelligence or design.

And who moves them in nature, in the video a man is doing the job, but
who do it in nature and it doesn't stop but they keep moving for billions of years?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
That would be due to random mutations etc.

And the mechanism of changing positions wouldn't happen just arbitrary.

They don't have a "specific meaning or job" it's just that due to their natural properties the combination "bread" interacts with other molecules in such a way that a bread is produced and the combination "beard" have different natural properties and interacts with other molecules in such a way that a "beard" is produced. Understand that I'm grossly oversimplifying the process for you to understand the principle.

And that is the reason that we became humans, natural properties.
The way we feel, the way we think, the way we move ....etc, all are natural properties
which have already to happen for a specific combinations in the DNA.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Sure. If a cat comes by and rips open a bag of "something", eventually you will be able to find a combination of "something" that looks purposeful and intelligently placed because you will find something that you recognize. If you leave that one good combination, and then have the cat do the same action a few hundred times, you'll begin to have a whole collection of things that seem intelligent, or purposeful, or functional. Looking out over all of these purposeful and functional combinations of things, you'll being to wonder... Did my cat create the Universe?

And the answer would still be , no.

So the cat can bring the letters and scramble them in randomness, how is that?
 
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