dawny0826
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In Genesis? Before I answer...let me make sure I understand the question.Deut 13:1 said:Great, so allow me edit that in.
And what are those first lessons??
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In Genesis? Before I answer...let me make sure I understand the question.Deut 13:1 said:Great, so allow me edit that in.
And what are those first lessons??
Yet remember FFH, not everyone on this forum believe pages were missing out of the Bible. We do, as Latter-day Saints, but not many others do.FFH said:There are many pages of the original text that were not included in the the King James Version of Genesis. The Joseph Smith Translation fills in these missing scriptures, from the original text, by direct inspiration from God, who wrote them. If you see discrepancies, you need to talk to me Deut. Get to your point.
For the LDS reading this thread: The Book of Moses, in the Pearl of Great Price, is Genesis 1-6, up to verse 13, with all of the corrections, the way that Joseph Smith received it, in the Inspired Version of the Bible. In the King James version there are many pages of text missing from Genesis. Jospeph Smith restored these verses, in his Inspired Version of the Bible. Only Genesis 1-6 are included in the Book of Moses, in the Pearl of Great Price.
The coordinating chapter and verse numbers have also been altered, in the KJV, and this makes a bit more complicated, when trying to match up chapter and verse, with the Masoretic text. It can be done, though, as long as the coordinating chapters and verses, in the Masoretic text, have not been changed, from their original form, and as long as the basic text is still intact, and nothing is missing. Words may have been altered but the basic text may still be intact, with the correct chapters and verses, which would match up to the JST (Joseph Smith translation) but not to the KJV, until chapter 16.
Deut 13:1 said:Netdoc: Isn't it hypocritical to maintain the position that people sometimes understand G-d while this would require you to fully understand G-d? If not, expand on your thoughts, I'm mostly interested on how Christians view these passages.
I see plenty between the Hebrew and and your text. I don't own a KJV, in fact, the only English Bible I have is a stone edition chumash and a JPS. Couple questions since you insist we edited the Torah. What year was the KJV translated? 16xx if I recall correctly (I could be off). Now, what evidence do you have that from 16xx to now, we changed Torah?FFH said:There are many pages of the original text that were not included in the the King James Version of Genesis. The Joseph Smith Translation fills in these missing scriptures, from the original text, by direct inspiration from God, who wrote them. If you see discrepancies in the KJV, verses your text, Deut, I am interested in them.
I think you're missing my point. In order to claim the engine of a car is broken, you need to understand car engines. In order to claim that no one can fully understand G-d, you need to understand G-d yourself to say this...NetDoc said:As soon as I claim to completely understand God, I would indeed be a hypocrite! Christianity is a journey: not a static place to be. Every day the Christian should be understanding God just a bit better than the day before, as they submit to the Spirit. This is why there is such a huge variation in what Christians believe.
Sorry. I guess I won't try to be helpful and answer your questions. :banghead3Deut 13:1 said:Well, might I suggest making a thread for you and your LDS followers to discuss and come to an agreement before we take this conversation any further? There is no point in saying, "They were under the law that always goverended christs churche" when no one but you knows what those law(s) are/were.
Let me know when you have decided to be civil enough to tell me that when you ask me questions you don't actually want me to answer them/Deut said:Let me know when you come to a consensous on which laws they were under. Then we can get into the more interesting aspect of this discussion.
This is what you're doing... 2 + 2 = a Number.Aqualung said:Sorry. I guess I won't try to be helpful and answer your questions. :banghead3
Let me know when you have decided to be civil enough to tell me that when you ask me questions you don't actually want me to answer them/
Not only pages but entire books.beckysoup61 said:Yet remember FFH, not everyone on this forum believe pages were missing out of the Bible. We do, as Latter-day Saints, but not many others do.
According to the Christian these chapters of Genesis tell us how the universe came into being. It shows the work of creation and Gods purpose for creating man. It shows mans relationship with God and mans relationship with the animals.It gives the reason for death and trouble experienced by mankind. Genesis gives us the hope od deliverance from death. Genesis points out that all humans descended from one man Adam who sinned and lost life for his posterity enabling us to understand how the ransom of one sacrifice,Jesus Christ,could atone for the sins of mankind. The book shows us how the issue of Gods sovereignty was raised by the serpent,Satanthe Devil.It gives us the sure hope of the destruction of Satan the Devil and relief for mankind. It recounts the origin of Babylon and thus all the false religion in the post flood earth. We get a view on how God feels about false worship and how much he detests it. He detests it so much that he causes a great flood to kill all the living creatures on the earth. We see Gods arangement with Noah and his family to save true worship of God while God destroys everything else on earth. We see that God is a jeaolous god and simply will not tolerate any worship to other gods.Deut 13:1 said:What is the Christian perspective on these chapters?
I didn't miss the point, but believe it to be wrong.Deut 13:1 said:I think you're missing my point. In order to claim the engine of a car is broken, you need to understand car engines. In order to claim that no one can fully understand G-d, you need to understand G-d yourself to say this...
You're right. And for this reason, I pray for spiritual understanding every single time I open my Bible...so that I'll understand what I'm reading in the way that God himself intends His word to be read. I make mistakes. He doesn't.NetDoc said:As soon as I claim to completely understand God, I would indeed be a hypocrite! Christianity is a journey: not a static place to be. Every day the Christian should be understanding God just a bit better than the day before, as they submit to the Spirit. This is why there is such a huge variation in what Christians believe.
Great post, NetDoc! I have these verses highlighted in my Bible.NetDoc said:One of my favorite scriptures:
Ephesians 1:15 For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, 16 I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. 17 I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. 18 I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, 19 and his incomparably great power for us who believe. NIV
Oh that the eyes of my heart would be fully open, that I might fully understand!
How many were there? Give examples of some of them. I just have zero idea which laws you believe they were under.Aqualung said:Deut: how many do you want me to give?
Tithing, baptism, love of god, stuff like that.Deut 13:1 said:How many were there? Give examples of some of them. I just have zero idea which laws you believe they were under.