I think the biggest problem is people like Rosie O'Donnell and Ellen they make the head lines and give gay people a bad name I would never allow crack pots like them to have children not because they are gay but because they are nuts looking for attention. Unfortunately this is what people see and they associate it with being gay. Where I live this is not an issue gay people don't act any different than straight people (no gay pride no straight pride parades we are all just people) and they are perfectly accepted, so, I kind of think this is more of an American issue.
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Gay adoption is good for children
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I think the biggest problem is people like Rosie O'Donnell and Ellen they make the head lines and give gay people a bad name I would never allow crack pots like them to have children not because they are gay but because they are nuts looking for attention. Unfortunately this is what people see and they associate it with being gay. Where I live this is not an issue gay people don't act any different than straight people (no gay pride no straight pride parades we are all just people) and they are perfectly accepted, so, I kind of think this is more of an American issue.
Scott C.
Just one guy
Of course not all people can be raised by a father and a mother. My grandfather lost his mother when he was young. My wife lost her father when she was young. My brother died and left three young sons without a father. Tragedy happens and its part of life. The fact that tragedy happens doesn't mean we should intentionally leave children without fathers and mothers.
Smoke
Done here.
What some people seem to be missing is that even if their personal idea of what's "ideal" had any validity, it's just not happening for most kids.
Only about half of children in the United States grow up in a household with two parents in an uninterrupted marriage. Only about forty percent grow up with both biological parents.
When you close the door on adoptions by same-sex couples, you are not helping to make sure children get to have your idea of an "ideal" family. You are making sure that many children never have any family at all.
Only about half of children in the United States grow up in a household with two parents in an uninterrupted marriage. Only about forty percent grow up with both biological parents.
When you close the door on adoptions by same-sex couples, you are not helping to make sure children get to have your idea of an "ideal" family. You are making sure that many children never have any family at all.
Starfish
Please no sarcasm
I agree completely.
I kind of think children who are older or difficult to place for whatever reason, would be better off with gay parents, than no parents at all. Tough issue.
But I also object to gay couples adopting babies when there are so many other couples waiting to adopt. When possible, the child needs a mom and a dad.
Smoke
Done here.
We all have our preferences. Personally, I object to bigots and religious fanatics adopting children when there are so many intelligent people waiting to adopt.
kai
ragamuffin
yes we have a breakdown in the family unit in the uk also, it doesnt seem to last anymore does it
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Your posts in this thread show otherwise.
Yep.
But why do you choose to ignore the FACT that 5+5=10?
that 2+8=10?
3+7?
1784732637-1784732632?
And here you have destroyed your own argument.
If they cannot figure out how to show same sex couples are better or even equal to "traditional" couples, then how does it work so much differently the other way around?
Jistyr
Inquisitive Youngin'
If a single mother or a single father can run a family-- which millions do-- then a second parent, no matter the sex, can only help the situation if their intentions are good, and I assure you that almost all homosexual couples mean well for their adopted children.
The only theoretical problem would be if the parents imposed their sexuality upon the child, like a number of heterosexual couples do to their children. But I think homosexual couples are probably more apt to understand the priviledge of having any sexuality, and these cases of 'imposed sexuality' are probably few and far in between, if they even exist at all.
The only theoretical problem would be if the parents imposed their sexuality upon the child, like a number of heterosexual couples do to their children. But I think homosexual couples are probably more apt to understand the priviledge of having any sexuality, and these cases of 'imposed sexuality' are probably few and far in between, if they even exist at all.
blackout
Violet.
It is interesting how many might voice concern over
what might happen if the child of homosexuals is heterosexual,
but they seem to have no concern regarding children
in the reverse situation.
Children should not have to grow up with any parents
who feel they should grow up "just like them".
People who feel their children should be carbon copies of themselves
should not be parents at all.
what might happen if the child of homosexuals is heterosexual,
but they seem to have no concern regarding children
in the reverse situation.
Children should not have to grow up with any parents
who feel they should grow up "just like them".
People who feel their children should be carbon copies of themselves
should not be parents at all.
Love is King
New Member
Fortunately today we have a Prophet of God on the Earth who as the Mouthpiece of God can guide us on this issue. A recent Proclamation to the World on the Family issued by the First Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has addressed some of these issues and is the current SCRIPTURE regarding it. I will follow the Lord on this one rather than self serving individuals trying to push their agenda. I'm not great with links but I'm sure someone will be able to post it.
Mike182
Flaming Queer
can you at least link us to this proclamation?
kdrier
Revolutionist
Like I said, there is no use arguing on this thread anymore, I've backed up my opinion using my own common psychology and common sense, which may be terrible. Take my OPINION as you will, and no, I have absolutely no research or links to back it up, and don't care enough to try to find some. You mine as well just ignore my points completely, and not get worked up about them.
Here's the white flag. If knowing I'm wrong and that I'm a big idiot helps you sleep better at night... then I'm wrong, and I'm a big idiot, congratulations, give yourselves a pat on the back, copy and paste this to mock me, and good luck.
Here's the white flag. If knowing I'm wrong and that I'm a big idiot helps you sleep better at night... then I'm wrong, and I'm a big idiot, congratulations, give yourselves a pat on the back, copy and paste this to mock me, and good luck.
Mike182
Flaming Queer
i have no intentions of mocking you, and i certainly don't need an others to refer to themselves in a derogatory manor in order to sleep well at nights.
you have made many posts claiming your opinion is common sense, but you have not as far as i can see gone anyway to justifying why it is common sense, or even why common sense is a justification for something. it can be frustrating when someone who is opposed to your family unit says it is just common sense that your family unit is second class to a traditional one, and then goes no way to justifying that.
just my 2 cents...
Scott C.
Just one guy
Name calling is not productive. Obviously, there are plenty of intelligent people for and against gay adoption. Also, I think of a fanatic as one who holds an extreme view, widely unaccepted by the masses. That is certainly not the case here.
Mike182
Flaming Queer
so when fanatical ideas are popularised, they are justified?
Kdrier, kdrier, kdrier.
I agree with you! I just think you have a completely counter-productive way of presenting your views.
I'm also confused about your admission that you have nothing concrete to back up your opinions. Doesn't this place them in the same league as those you're denouncing?
I agree with you! I just think you have a completely counter-productive way of presenting your views.
I'm also confused about your admission that you have nothing concrete to back up your opinions. Doesn't this place them in the same league as those you're denouncing?
kdrier
Revolutionist
I'm also confused about your admission that you have nothing concrete to back up your opinions. Doesn't this place them in the same league as those you're denouncing?
Sir, I have nothing concrete to back up my opinions, simply because they are mere opinions, I've given my thought process on how I have arrived and those opinions, no more, no less. and yes, it puts them in the exact same league.
"you have made many posts claiming your opinion is common sense, but you have not as far as i can see gone anyway to justifying why it is common sense"
Common sense: sound practical judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence.
, or even why common sense is a justification for something.
It's justification for my opinion.
it can be frustrating when someone who is opposed to your family unit says it is just common sense that your family unit is second class to a traditional one, and then goes no way to justifying that.
I'm sorry sir, if my opinion is offensive than take it like a feather, I mean no insult. But is second class that bad? It's not a contest, whatever makes you happy. For reasons why I believe a homosexual family is second class to a traditional one, see above, and remember it is best to ignore my unsupported opinions if justification is important to you.
Sir, I have nothing concrete to back up my opinions, simply because they are mere opinions, I've given my thought process on how I have arrived and those opinions, no more, no less. and yes, it puts them in the exact same league.
"you have made many posts claiming your opinion is common sense, but you have not as far as i can see gone anyway to justifying why it is common sense"
Common sense: sound practical judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence.
, or even why common sense is a justification for something.
It's justification for my opinion.
it can be frustrating when someone who is opposed to your family unit says it is just common sense that your family unit is second class to a traditional one, and then goes no way to justifying that.
I'm sorry sir, if my opinion is offensive than take it like a feather, I mean no insult. But is second class that bad? It's not a contest, whatever makes you happy. For reasons why I believe a homosexual family is second class to a traditional one, see above, and remember it is best to ignore my unsupported opinions if justification is important to you.
Scott C.
Just one guy
Wrong ideas are never good, popular or unpopular.