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Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by Psalm23, Oct 18, 2021.

  1. Psalm23

    Psalm23 Active Member

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    Have you ever been gaslighted by someone? Are there spiritual forms of gaslighting that brings self doubt?
     
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    Spiritually, no. Growing up, yes. The aftermath still affects me today.

    What are spiritual forms of gaslighting?
     
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  3. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    No personal gaslighting but political gaslighting - yes.

    Gaslighting is using lies and deception - there's nothing spiritual about it.
     
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  4. Psalm23

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    I guess gaslighting in a spiritual context such as if a religious leader is doing it or using Scripture to manipulate someone. I’m not sure I understand gaslighting completely. It seems to be a way to make someone question their perception or memory or make one feel like they’re going crazy. If you are given a suggestion that can’t trust yourself or can’t know what is in your heart( such as your beliefs, motives, values etc), could that be considered gaslighting?
     
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  5. Psalm23

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    I mean gaslighting used in a spiritual context such as if religion is involved or a spiritual leader is doing the gaslighting. I agree though, it isn’t a spiritual thing to do to a person.
     
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    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    The definition of "gaslighting" as I see it
    used on the internet.
    One says something that another
    (usually a feminist) disagrees with.
     
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    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    No beer? Not even time for a wee dram of a good single malt? Where's the fun in that? :D
     
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    I lived with someone who gaslighted me on just about everything. It was awful.

    I'm not sure it worked on a spiritual level, though. He could convince me that I was a useless piece of garbage, but he was never able to get me to turn from my religious convictions(though he wanted to).
     
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  11. Psalm23

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    I’m sorry you experienced that.
     
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    One time I got gaslighted by somebody. They had the TV on too loud. I would come out and ask if they'd turn it down. They'd say sure and turn it down in front of me, then turn it back up when I left the room. They did this several times in a row. For some reason this triggered a kind of distrust that I've never felt before, and I don't think that this can ever be fixed. I don't think I'd trust them with a knife or sharp object around me.

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    I forgot to mention. Then later on when I was talking with someone else about the TV being too loud this person said "Just ask me to turn it down if its too loud."
     
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    That has been my experience as well, just like when democrats claimed requiring ID to vote is racist. Also when people claim personal stories and experiences about negative reactions to covid vaccines is misinformation, happens all the time.
     
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    Yes.

    There are attempts at spiritual gaslighting. The effect is depending on the convictions of the individual.
     
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    I see - the Humpty Dumpty approach to the meaning of words.

    To get down to it, it's trump and the maga types who say they did not say what they said, did not do what they did in spite of it being said and done.
     
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    That's not the definition of gaslighting.
     
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  18. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    I'll go with the one used in the book & movie.
    What's yours?
     
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    "psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator"

    - Definition of GASLIGHTING


    It's RF in a nutshell!
     
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    Welcome to the forums. ;)
     
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