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Gas prices jump to over $4.00 a gallon. Praise Allah.

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Landon Caeli, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. Revoltingest

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    What on Earth is wrong with them selling their oil,
    & then spending the profit on islands & buildings?
     
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  2. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Yes. That's what I think.
     
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    The ppb is determined by market demand and supply.. What are you thinking? We did have a cartel in the US years and years ago.. The Texas Railroad Commission decided how much oil could be produced.. But, US production costs are the highest in the world... we just couldn't compete.... and the US industry doesn't have any economies of scale.. Most US wells produce less than 50 barrels a day.
     
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    Dubai doesn't actually have very much oil...
     
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    Its not "altruistic".. Some think they should produce oil out of the goodness of their hearts.
     
  6. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Because They're human rights violators. People like that don't deserve nice things.
     
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    It's our oil.
    How did it get underneath their country!
     
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    If human rights violations are the issue (not Islam), then
    you've a bone to pick with the Russians & Chinese too.
     
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    This sort of thing works just fine in New York. In fact, it ALMOST works in LA.

    Where I live, however, 'car pool' is hard, given that the folks who live here must commute to work in areas that can well be 30 to 100 miles separated. Walking and biking are fine...if the nearest store isn't at least five miles away, and one doesn't have to go 25 to 30 miles to do any shopping. 'Drive less?" Well, those who tell us to 'drive less' are also the folks who aren't happy with Amazon shopping. Busses....Oh, that's wonderful. There ARE buses around here. Twice a day. On time some times. Better not need anything cold or frozen from the store, or want to do anything ELSE with your day.

    The folks who live in crowded cities on the coasts can manage just fine without cars. They have mass transportation; subways, buses that show up every ten minutes, stores and workplaces close enough to get to without putting the team to the Conestoga.

    For the rest of us, which happens to be the vast majority of the geographical United States (draw a line 70 miles away from any coastline and look at the middle), we....are toast.

    I, for instance, am actually a bit more than 50 miles from the Pacific coast. I do not have access to decent mass transport. If I want to walk to the store, I have to make it a 10 mile round trip.

    It doesn't surprise me a bit that the folks who live on the east and west coasts can blithely tell the rest of us to 'walk or bike or car-pool or take buses or drive less..." Not when THEIR idea of ditching the car and walking to the store is a matter of three blocks, not three miles.

    Sorry. Hot button. I am reminded of that apocryphal story of Marie Antoinette saying 'let them eat cake!" when told that the poor had no bread. We 'folks in the middle' don't drive cars because we prefer them (well, not mostly) we drive them because that's the only way we can do what we need to do, reasonably, because all those other 'solutions' aren't available to us.

    Tell you what: you folks figure out how to get electric cars to the folks 'in the middle' or in 'flyover country' and figure out a way to produce the electricity to run 'em without ruining the ecology and landscape, and I'm with you. Nuclear plants would be good.

    Don't get me wrong; I'd like to see us become independent of fossil fuels as much as anybody else. I just get a bit tired of being told to 'walk or bike or car-pool or take buses' when those options really aren't available.
     
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  10. Augustus

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    That can easily be fixed...

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  11. sooda

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    Of dear.. Look at the US prison population before you get so self-righteous.
     
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  12. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Well then how do they have the money to build all those expensive islands, condos and hotels, some costing 30,000 a night from what I've heard?
     
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    Damn capitalism and oil dependency, it's so "socialist", am I right?
     
  14. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    That is a fair comparison. Birds of a feather...
     
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    You also think that pedos in silly hats are moral authorities, sooo... yeah.
     
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    I hear many people say that prices must be kept low because of
    their personal situation or because it would be unfair to the poor.
    When I lived in LA, I commuted from the Santa Monica area to
    Hawthorne with several other engineers.

    There is always a way to cope with high gas prices.
    Select whatever works for one....
    - Carpool.
    - Public transportation.
    - Move closer to work.
    - Get a car with better fuel economy.
    - Combine trips to shop, work, recreate.
    - Car share to cut costs.
    - Eliminate unnecessary trips.
    - Walk or bike. My commute to work is a 3 mile walk. I don't drive unless hauling something.
    - Use a cooler for frozen food if trips take long. That's what we do.
     
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    Presumably by renting the rooms for 30k a night ;)

    Economy is based on tourism, commerce, financial services, construction, etc.

    Had to get bailed out by Abu Dhabi during the GFC though.
     
  18. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    I'd rather befriend a silly hat wearing pedo than a bearded freak wearing sandals who pushes homosexuals off building tops.
     
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    I'd rather befriend neither.
     
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  20. It Aint Necessarily So

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    Jerry wept. Remember this - the 1978 Egyptian tour and concerts, when they played all night under the pyramids and The Music Never Stopped? :

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    Back cover of the Dead's Blues For Allah album :

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