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Game: The Iron Chef of RF

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Welcome!

This game is called: The Iron Chef of RF. We played this game at the office and had a really good time. I think it will translate very well to the internet. It is a cuisine categorization and debate game. I think it has a lot of potential for this crowd.

The objective of the game is to group all cuisine, ALL, into as few categories as possible. Similar to the 4 food groups? But this is for cuisine. It's as if you have been tasked to write the compendium of all cuisine. Every different sort of entree, soup, beverage, anything that goes on a plate, anything one would order at a restaurant, all of it needs to be put into categories. The goal is to create the fewest number of categories.

The game was invented, I was told, by restaurant workers, food-service employees. So, it might help to adopt that mindset. Anything that can be put on any menu anywhere, needs to be included. The employee who introduced the office to the game was a pastry chef prior to changing careers. Try to imagine, again, this compendium of all cuisine. And this compendium is being broken out into separate volumes. What are the fewest, reasonable, logical, divisions, categories, for this all inclusive compendium?

That is the game.

The individual who taught me the game, claims to be the winner, because she can put everything, absolutely everything into 1 category. I, naturally, argued. :) I say, there are 3 general categories not 1.

What do you say? Who will be the Iron Chef of RF? What are the least number of categories which include ALL cuisine?

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dybmh

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Good.
Bad.

Good one. But.... Pizza is either not included in either, or it's included in both. So that won't work.

Famous movie quote: Pizza: even when it's bad, it's still a little good. Like sex.
 

dybmh

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Edible.

By definition -- food must be edible to be food. Even if you don't like it, and call it "inedible," when we lock you in a room with nothing else to eat, eventually you will eat it -- and it will do what it is supposed to do.

I like the creativity. But, I object on the grounds of subjectivity. I eat things my family will not. Usually because my 3 seconds on the 3-second-rule are very long.

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dybmh

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I say, there are 3 general categories not 1.

OK. I've reduced it to 2, but, I don't like it. I like my prior set of categories better, but, 2 is lower.

I have broken out by: spicey or not. So, I'd make a list of all ingredients which are spicy. There might be a debate on onions, but, somehow, I make a list. Any cuisine which has those ingredients from the spicey list goes in the spicy category.

Any objections?
 

mangalavara

हर हर महादेव
Premium Member
I have broken out by: spicey or not. So, I'd make a list of all ingredients which are spicy. There might be a debate on onions, but, somehow, I make a list. Any cuisine which has those ingredients from the spicey list goes in the spicy category.

Any objections?

I object. That there might be room for debate on onions shows that food cannot be confidently reduced to spicy and non-spicy.

I know two categories that contain all food: Aladeen and Aladeen. Yellow corn, for example, is categorized as Aladeen whereas kale is categorized as Aladeen. Nobody could safely possibly object to this classification. :D
 

dybmh

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I object. That there might be room for debate on onions shows that food cannot be confidently reduced to spicy and non-spicy.

Agreed! And thank you. I didn't like it either.

I know two categories that contain all food: Aladeen and Aladeen. Yellow corn, for example, is categorized as Aladeen whereas kale is categorized as Aladeen. Nobody could safely possibly object to this classification.

Uh. Aladeen and aladeen?

Uh.

I don't know what to say. We'll need to assemble a panel of judges. But , you're right. I can't think of anything to say at all much less to object. Maybe someone else will.

Well done, sir, well done.

"Aladeen. And. Aladeen!!!!"

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dybmh

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absolutely everything into 1 category

Ok. My co-worker insisted there is one and only one category in which all cuisine belongs. I disagree. I'll let you be the judge.

Salad

Any objections? I'll reserve mine for now.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
Welcome!

This game is called: The Iron Chef of RF. We played this game at the office and had a really good time. I think it will translate very well to the internet. It is a cuisine categorization and debate game. I think it has a lot of potential for this crowd.

The objective of the game is to group all cuisine, ALL, into as few categories as possible. Similar to the 4 food groups? But this is for cuisine. It's as if you have been tasked to write the compendium of all cuisine. Every different sort of entree, soup, beverage, anything that goes on a plate, anything one would order at a restaurant, all of it needs to be put into categories. The goal is to create the fewest number of categories.

The game was invented, I was told, by restaurant workers, food-service employees. So, it might help to adopt that mindset. Anything that can be put on any menu anywhere, needs to be included. The employee who introduced the office to the game was a pastry chef prior to changing careers. Try to imagine, again, this compendium of all cuisine. And this compendium is being broken out into separate volumes. What are the fewest, reasonable, logical, divisions, categories, for this all inclusive compendium?

That is the game.

The individual who taught me the game, claims to be the winner, because she can put everything, absolutely everything into 1 category. I, naturally, argued. :) I say, there are 3 general categories not 1.

What do you say? Who will be the Iron Chef of RF? What are the least number of categories which include ALL cuisine?

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Domestic and foreign?

Or, cold, hot, or warm.

Or, soup / not-soup.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
I object. That there might be room for debate on onions shows that food cannot be confidently reduced to spicy and non-spicy.

I know two categories that contain all food: Aladeen and Aladeen. Yellow corn, for example, is categorized as Aladeen whereas kale is categorized as Aladeen. Nobody could safely possibly object to this classification. :D
When encountered with such logic it is better not to ask questions.
 

dybmh

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Friends.

We have a challenge to the reigning champion, the Iron Chef of RF.

On Friday afternoon, last week, my Dad, challenged the one and only one category "Everything's a salad."

It's as if you have been tasked to write the compendium of all cuisine. Every different sort of entree, soup, beverage ...

Everything's a salad? My Dad objects: "How is a glass of water a salad?" ( ... looking to the judges... ? will this be accepted .... ? )



"How IS a glass of water a salad? Seriously! Does that even make sense at all?!"

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Well, there you have it friends. It looks like my Dad has dethroned the the Iron Chef of RF. The food category challenge is back up-for-grabs!
 

dybmh

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I say, there are 3 general categories not 1.

I'm sticking with my answer. 3 is the fewest.



Here's the other contenders, each of which have brought 2 categories:

@Wirey : "Good or Bad"
@Evangelicalhumanist : "Edible or Not"
@mangalavara: "Aladeen-And-Aladeen" ( the first contestant in Iron Chef history to produce a Chan Buddhist Koan for our panel of Judges. Well played! )
@Tomef : "Domestic or Foreign" "Soup or Not"



@Brickjectivity:
  1. Dry
  2. Wet
  3. Sticky
  4. Slimy
  5. Moist
  6. Emulsion
  7. Liquid
  8. Okra.
8 categories. He's my competition. If all binary mutually exclusive categories fail, and my 3 categories fail, Brick will be the winner, the Iron Chef of RF, lacking any other valid alternative sets of all-inclusive cuisine categories, presented to the panel of Judges.
 

dybmh

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dishes with bacon
dishes that are wrong
dishes you only eat after a night out drinking
dishes lacking fruit
all vegetables, with the exception of okra
something warm on a winter's morning

OK. Wow. What a veritable cornucopia.
  1. Bacon or not
  2. Wrong or not
  3. Drunk or not
  4. Fruity or not
  5. Veggie or not except okra ( obviously it's universal )
  6. Warm-Winter-Cuisine or not
Let's see. How are the Judges reacting?

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Nice. @beenherebeforeagain, the dark horse, ermm... dark eagle, unexpectedly swooooooops in with 6 binary mutually exclusive categories!!! All in one massive, dive bomb, into the competition.

Well done!
 

cofagegaetap

New Member
Welcome!

This game is called: The Iron Chef of RF. We played this game at the office and had a really good time. I think it will translate very well to the internet. It is a cuisine categorization and debate game. I think it has a lot of potential for this crowd.

The objective of the game is to group all cuisine, ALL, into as few categories as possible. Similar to the 4 food groups? But this is for cuisine. It's as if you have been tasked to write the compendium of all cuisine. Every different sort of entree, soup, beverage, anything that goes on a plate, anything one would order at a restaurant, all of it needs to be put into categories. The goal is to create the fewest number of categories.

The game was invented, I was told, by restaurant workers, food-service employees. So, it might help to adopt that mindset. Anything that can be put on any menu anywhere, needs to be included. The employee who introduced the office to the game was a pastry chef prior to changing careers. Try to imagine, again, this compendium of all cuisine. And this compendium is being broken out into separate volumes. What are the fewest, reasonable, logical, divisions, categories, for this all inclusive compendium?

That is the game.

The individual who taught me the game, claims to be the winner, because she can put everything, absolutely everything into 1 category. I, naturally, argued. :) I say, there are 3 general categories not 1.

What do you say? Who will be the Iron Chef of RF? What are the least number of categories which include ALL cuisine?

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I have identified two categories that encompass all types of food: Aladeen and Aladeen. For instance, yellow corn falls under the Aladeen category, while kale is classified as Aladeen. This classification is comprehensive and leaves no room for dispute.
 
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