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Galatians 5:9, false teachings?

Discussion in 'Same Faith Debates' started by Desert Snake, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. savagewind

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    I am sure you mean more chaos and confusion and of a different sort.
    Though the World already knows that Christians believe in mistakes.
    And, it is my understanding that Christianity with all her different dogmas already exists in chaos and that truly every Christian is confused.

    That I might call what's the word? arrogant.
     
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    I think many have. The right question might be; who has actually accepted the gospel to live by it?
    Few, but it was prophesied. Matthew 7:14

    They teach that you must accept the gospel of Jesus Christ to live by it to live God's will be done, which is life, but I trust that so many who do not except it can live God's will be done but by proxy.
     
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    That's because there will always be someone who believes they know just a little more than the people who translated the Bible.
     
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    How is it possible to believe we can think we know more, but all the people who had their hands in making the bible what it is today could not have thought they knew better?
     
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    It is not appropriate to be trusting that everyone who had a part in translating it and copying it could not change the meaning of scripture AND ALSO that savagewind is able to change the meaning of scripture.

    For, either the meaning can be changed, or it can't be changed. It can not be both.

    According to the Jehovah's Witnesses the meaning of John 1:1 was changed, but on the other horn, they say that Jehovah has protected the scriptures from being changed.

    Revelation 13:11 :)
     
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    hmmmmm.......

    if i deceive myself.....God might say.....THAT was stupid
    (slap up side of the head)

    if I recite what I was taught.....God and heaven might ask.....
    WHO told you THAT!!!!!!
    and why did you believe it?!
    (slap up side of the head)

    THEN they go go looking for the preacher
    with sword in hand!
     
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    All of the books/letters Paul wrote were absolutely insprired by the Holy Spirit and are all undoubtedly authentic scripture.

    For those of you who don't like that it is just tobad. You don't get to pick and choose scripture, it is all valid and all good for teaching.

    2 Timothy 3:16
     
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    2 Timothy 3:16

    Inspired - to exert an exalting influence on.

    Isaiah 42:5
    Thus says God the LORD, Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread out the earth and its offspring, Who gives breath to the people on it And spirit to those who walk in it,

    Isaiah 57:16
    "For I will not contend forever, Nor will I always be angry; For the spirit would grow faint before Me, And the breath of those whom I have made.

    Ezekiel 18:4 For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child--both alike belong to me.

    Might 2 Timothy 3:16 just mean that it is all about Jehovah and not mean that every word of scripture is though it was recorded by very, very, very special secretaries?

    I think it means that a person reading it should not dismiss anything, but should consider everything.
    And NOT each word.
     
  9. savagewind

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    You monsters believe that every word is inspired........... so to get the picture you will need to know and understand every word.
    Who can do that?
    Who especially can't do that?
     
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    This post is a perfect example of why there is so much confusion in the church! You actually believe you are making sense.

    You give a definition of "inspired" then quote those verses that have absolutely nothing to do with being inspired. Then say, "don't dismiss anything, but consider everything, just not each word". Total gibberish!!!
     
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    YOU!
     
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    Every word that Paul wrote (except for when he specifically stated it wasn't) is scripture inspired by the Holy Spirit. If you don't agree then you don't agree and you're just wrong.
     
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    I think your job is to disagree with me.
    Since every soul belongs to Jehovah, then whatever they think, do or say has more or less something to do with Jehovah.
     
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    No. People who
    don't have a Bible
    can't read
    don't have the intelligence
    don't have the time to know every word

    To teach that every scripture is inspired leads to the belief that knowing some of it can't really do much good, but if you might consider that the whole picture is inspired then it isn't so hard to see what Jehovah will have you see.
    If anything isn't inspired in it to believe in the uninspired portion will cause misunderstanding.
    What happens every single time between two souls who are misunderstanding each other?
    Answer the question!
     
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    Haha, I only disagree with you when you're wrong, unlike him. :D
     
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    OH! Shoot me dead! Maybe I should pray for God to make me hate this.
    I am not talking about what was written under the influence of The Holy Spirit. I don't know about that and I try not to talk about that which I do not know about.

    I am talking about what people say it MEANS.

    Do you know what means means?
     
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    If the PICTURE that the Bible makes is inspired then anyone, even a small unfortunate child can be taught by it.

    If every word is what makes the Bible inspired then only the people who make it their lives' work can understand it.
     
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    Also, if every word is God's own word then every person who had anything to do with the writing, copying and translating of it had to be puppeted by Jehovah God.

    Some unfortunate child learning that God made people do exactly right in the making of the Bible might ask God, "If you can make people do what you want them to do why don't you stop people from doing what you don't want them to do?"
     
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    @DavidFirth do you understand the question?
    A translator has to know the meaning of every word to translate it as it was heard originally.
    You are saying that is possible. Do you know you are saying that?
     
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    Oh really? LOL. Not!
     
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