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G.W. Bush's Idealism is Winning the World

Debunker

Active Member
What mistaken political pundits call conservatism is a mistaken identity of idealism, American idealism, which is a belief that is worthy of being spread over the complete planit. It can not be forced upon a people but when they are free to hear and learn about the freedom people can have, they want this American idealism. It is working in Iraq and has spread to Tunisia, Egypt, and threaten to break out in the entire Mid East. The USSR could not stand up to American idealism and G.W. Bush has preached this same gospel. Although he told the world that it was vital to stand on principle, liberals, anti establishment progressives continued to defy his idealism. They cursed him for Iraq and they chided every word he spoke. Had Obama supported the people's idealism of Iran, Iran might not be the problem to the world it is today. It is vital that Obama disregard his foolish views of not being a leader in democratic reform and take the side of the people in counties where they are willing to follow the American idealism of G.W. Bush. The liberals will hate it but Bush will be regarded by history as one of America's great patriots and leaders.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
What mistaken political pundits call conservatism is a mistaken identity of idealism, American idealism, which is a belief that is worthy of being spread over the complete planit. It can not be forced upon a people but when they are free to hear and learn about the freedom people can have, they want this American idealism. It is working in Iraq and has spread to Tunisia, Egypt, and threaten to break out in the entire Mid East. The USSR could not stand up to American idealism and G.W. Bush has preached this same gospel. Although he told the world that it was vital to stand on principle, liberals, anti establishment progressives continued to defy his idealism. They cursed him for Iraq and they chided every word he spoke. Had Obama supported the people's idealism of Iran, Iran might not be the problem to the world it is today. It is vital that Obama disregard his foolish views of not being a leader in democratic reform and take the side of the people in counties where they are willing to follow the American idealism of G.W. Bush. The liberals will hate it but Bush will be regarded by history as one of America's great patriots and leaders.

Are you going to start talking about fish again?
 
I don't know why I am responding to this thread. Perhaps I have finally lost my mind, or am very close to it. I'm gettin outta here now!!
 

Debunker

Active Member
So far the mind dead have said all they to say. They are careful; some do not want to be hooked again. It is wonderful to see history unfolding in support of Bush and all those people that stayed true to American idealism. It is even having an affect on the President. He has not criticized our country's idealism in several days now and he appears to be coming down on the side of the people of Egypt.Let's hope he is not searching for which side to apologize to. Let's hope he begins listening to the American people too. That would be a good sign that he is walking towards the middle class independents that have given uo on liberalism.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Given that conservatives have a history of undermining the constitution and opposing people's rights, liberty and equality, they hardly represent "American idealism". Bush never gave a damn about any of that. Liberation is such a flimsy pretext especially while the U.S. government has a long history of supporting (and even installing) dictatorships. Besides, I have a feeling these governments (which from my understanding were secular and pro-west) will likely be replaced with Islamic fundamentalist leaders.
 
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Debunker

Active Member
To call GWB an idealist is much like calling a giraffe a rhino.

Plato was an idealist. He wrote about the Republic you know. Plato was a realist also. He was a realist because he urged society to work towards his "idea" of a perfect state. You must stay true to your principles to achieve your goal of perfect statehood. You can not follow political truths if you have none and if you change the principles each time the political current changes, you can never be a dependable world leader. It is undeniable that the world is following Bush's idealism and people seeking freedom are still looking to America as freedoms leader. The reason the world is rejecting liberalism is that liberals have been calling a giraffe a rhino. They think the people are stupid and don't know the difference. Too late, GWB set the record straight.
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
YES! THANK GOD BUSH WAS SUCH A COMPLETE IDIOT...AND DRAGGED THE WORLD DOWN WITH HIM. :rolleyes:
please. President Bush spread "Idealism" as much as he spread chaos and death and torture.
He will be regarded as any other republican president, like nixon...regan...and his father...ALL FAILURES!
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
What mistaken political pundits call conservatism is a mistaken identity of idealism, American idealism, which is a belief that is worthy of being spread over the complete planit. It can not be forced upon a people but when they are free to hear and learn about the freedom people can have, they want this American idealism. It is working in Iraq and has spread to Tunisia, Egypt, and threaten to break out in the entire Mid East. The USSR could not stand up to American idealism and G.W. Bush has preached this same gospel. Although he told the world that it was vital to stand on principle, liberals, anti establishment progressives continued to defy his idealism. They cursed him for Iraq and they chided every word he spoke. Had Obama supported the people's idealism of Iran, Iran might not be the problem to the world it is today. It is vital that Obama disregard his foolish views of not being a leader in democratic reform and take the side of the people in counties where they are willing to follow the American idealism of G.W. Bush. The liberals will hate it but Bush will be regarded by history as one of America's great patriots and leaders.

That's nuttier than rat crap in a pistachio factory.

Jeez, at first I was horrified to think that this was actually real. Thank God it's uninformed and incoherent.
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
Plato was an idealist. He wrote about the Republic you know. Plato was a realist also. He was a realist because he urged society to work towards his "idea" of a perfect state. You must stay true to your principles to achieve your goal of perfect statehood. You can not follow political truths if you have none and if you change the principles each time the political current changes, you can never be a dependable world leader. It is undeniable that the world is following Bush's idealism and people seeking freedom are still looking to America as freedoms leader. The reason the world is rejecting liberalism is that liberals have been calling a giraffe a rhino. They think the people are stupid and don't know the difference. Too late, GWB set the record straight.
If "The Republic" is not a dis-utopia, than Plato was a Nazi. pagan values like his mean nothing to me.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Plato was an idealist. He wrote about the Republic you know. Plato was a realist also. He was a realist because he urged society to work towards his "idea" of a perfect state. You must stay true to your principles to achieve your goal of perfect statehood. You can not follow political truths if you have none and if you change the principles each time the political current changes, you can never be a dependable world leader. It is undeniable that the world is following Bush's idealism and people seeking freedom are still looking to America as freedoms leader. The reason the world is rejecting liberalism is that liberals have been calling a giraffe a rhino. They think the people are stupid and don't know the difference. Too late, GWB set the record straight.

HAHA -- you compare GBW to Plato???

You don't know politics and your knowledge of philosophy is even worse.
 

Debunker

Active Member
Given that conservatives have a history of undermining the constitution and opposing people's rights, liberty and equality, they hardly represent "American idealism". Bush never gave a damn about any of that. Liberation is such a flimsy pretext especially while the U.S. government has a long history of supporting (and even installing) dictatorships. Besides, I have a feeling these governments (which from my understanding were secular and pro-west) will be likely replaced with Islamic fundamentalist leaders.
If you and Obama have anything to say about it, they probably will, especially if you guys stand with the people of Iran like you did. Your type of leadership costs us much more sorrow than Bush could ever dream up. If Obama and the American liberals set back and allow radical Muslims to take over in these democratic seeking countries, it will be the fault of the liberal ideologues. You guys have a chance to show patriotic attitudes at this important time in history. Don't blow it or no one will ever vote for you again.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
If you and Obama have anything to say about it, they probably will, especially if you guys stand with the people of Iran like you did. Your type of leadership costs us much more sorrow than Bush could ever dream up. If Obama and the American liberals set back and allow radical Muslims to take over in these democratic seeking countries, it will be the fault of the liberal ideologues. You guys have a chance to show patriotic attitudes at this important time in history. Don't blow it or no one will ever vote for you again.

Seems to me like you've got bigger fish to fry.
 
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