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G-d is androgynous: The royal 'We'

9-18-1

Active Member
Androgynous

Merriam-Webster
: having the characteristics or nature of both male and female
Definition of ANDROGYNOUS

Collins:
: In biology, an androgynous person, animal, or plant has both male and female sexual characteristics.
Androgynous definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary

Dictionary.com:
: being both male and female; hermaphroditic.
the definition of androgyny

andro - masculine
gyn - feminine
ous - [state of]

The royal 'We' is an expression used to denote any action(s) undertaken and/or committed to that are shared between the Patriarchy (masculine) and the Matriarchy (feminine) of any 'state' which utilizes a King-and-Queen foundation. As such if a Patriarch or Matriarch were addressing an audience and says "I" he/she speaks for their own being and not of that of the other. However if either say "We" it is of equally shared sentiment.

This royal 'We' applies to the Genesis 1:1 word often translated 'GOD':

בראשית ברא אלהים את השמים ואת הארץ
In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth.

אלהים is an androgynous form and can be read in several possible, and equally viable, ways. In any such reading, this word describes (is an equation of) the archetypal relationship between the masculine and feminine nature(s) of creation when they are absolutely united as one form. Like the example above: אלהים describes the royal 'We' that is equally shared between a Patriarch and a Matriarch. As such אלהים is wholly androgynous, wholly Royal.

When read inside of itself the word is plural. However, when addressed from the outside by another word (such as the preceding ברא) it is properly treated as a singular as אלהים is absolutely united as one form built upon a relationship between two polarities. For example, when אלהים is speaking it is assuming its own plurality. However, when being referenced from the exterior it takes on the singular which is by default masculine. This can be seen easily in Genesis 1:26-27.

It is for this reason we read in Genesis 1:26 (speaking as; inside-out; using royal 'We')
And אלהים said 'Let us make man in our image after our likeness and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth'.

And in Genesis 1:27 (speaking of; outside-in; using singular 'he')
So אלהים created man in his own image in the image of אלהים created he him male and female created he them

with the latter still explicitly indicating that the object אלהים itself contains an image of male and female.

This is precisely why I openly condemn the religious institutions of Christianity and Islam which are both patriarchal (with a very little p-p) sword-armed idol-based sexually degenerated institutions that places idols of (dead) men before adherents who are persuaded (via books) to imitate them for a living. And as a non-Christian and a non-Muslim I read in Moses' second book of:

Exodus 20:12
"Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you."

As when a "system" is established between masculine and feminine (man and woman) the stability of this system determines its nature: if highly stable, longevity ensues. If highly unstable, destruction follows. This is the same principle as applied to engine(s): the more efficient they are, the longer they last. This also applies to two spherical bodies suspended in a space-time vacuum: the degree to which their orbits are 'balanced' determines the stability/longevity of their orbit(s).

The two polarities which are described by אלהים are (is) the most basic natural 'engine' and/or 'source' of 'creation'. The degree to which one can 'balance' them and/or 'honor' them directly relates to the longevity one experiences and is directly related to the 'tree of knowledge'.

Feel free to bring agreements and/or objections.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Androgynous

Merriam-Webster
: having the characteristics or nature of both male and female
Definition of ANDROGYNOUS

Collins:
: In biology, an androgynous person, animal, or plant has both male and female sexual characteristics.
Androgynous definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary

Dictionary.com:
: being both male and female; hermaphroditic.
the definition of androgyny

andro - masculine
gyn - feminine
ous - [state of]

The royal 'We' is an expression used to denote any action(s) undertaken and/or committed to that are shared between the Patriarchy (masculine) and the Matriarchy (feminine) of any 'state' which utilizes a King-and-Queen foundation. As such if a Patriarch or Matriarch were addressing an audience and says "I" he/she speaks for their own being and not of that of the other. However if either say "We" it is of equally shared sentiment.

This royal 'We' applies to the Genesis 1:1 word often translated 'GOD':

בראשית ברא אלהים את השמים ואת הארץ
In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth.

אלהים is an androgynous form and can be read in several possible, and equally viable, ways. In any such reading, this word describes (is an equation of) the archetypal relationship between the masculine and feminine nature(s) of creation when they are absolutely united as one form. Like the example above: אלהים describes the royal 'We' that is equally shared between a Patriarch and a Matriarch. As such אלהים is wholly androgynous, wholly Royal.

When read inside of itself the word is plural. However, when addressed from the outside by another word (such as the preceding ברא) it is properly treated as a singular as אלהים is absolutely united as one form built upon a relationship between two polarities. For example, when אלהים is speaking it is assuming its own plurality. However, when being referenced from the exterior it takes on the singular which is by default masculine. This can be seen easily in Genesis 1:26-27.

It is for this reason we read in Genesis 1:26 (speaking as; inside-out; using royal 'We')
And אלהים said 'Let us make man in our image after our likeness and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth'.

And in Genesis 1:27 (speaking of; outside-in; using singular 'he')
So אלהים created man in his own image in the image of אלהים created he him male and female created he them

with the latter still explicitly indicating that the object אלהים itself contains an image of male and female.

This is precisely why I openly condemn the religious institutions of Christianity and Islam which are both patriarchal (with a very little p-p) sword-armed idol-based sexually degenerated institutions that places idols of (dead) men before adherents who are persuaded (via books) to imitate them for a living. And as a non-Christian and a non-Muslim I read in Moses' second book of:

Exodus 20:12
"Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you."

As when a "system" is established between masculine and feminine (man and woman) the stability of this system determines its nature: if highly stable, longevity ensues. If highly unstable, destruction follows. This is the same principle as applied to engine(s): the more efficient they are, the longer they last. This also applies to two spherical bodies suspended in a space-time vacuum: the degree to which their orbits are 'balanced' determines the stability/longevity of their orbit(s).

The two polarities which are described by אלהים are (is) the most basic natural 'engine' and/or 'source' of 'creation'. The degree to which one can 'balance' them and/or 'honor' them directly relates to the longevity one experiences and is directly related to the 'tree of knowledge'.

Feel free to bring agreements and/or objections.

Only thing I can make sense of this is god is neither male or female. Once you place gender by whatever context we wish to apply on it, we make god into our own image not the other way around.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Why not female, though? Mother's give birth and take care of people and the earth. Father's are there at birth but did not give birth.

Ramakrishna honored and adored the Divine Mother as the following excerpt shows. We can focus on how our heart invites us to focus: masculine, feminine, both or beyond the gender polarity.

I wept before the Mother and prayed. “O Mother, please tell me, please reveal to me what the yogis have realized through yoga and the jnanis through discrimination.” And the Mother has revealed everything to me. She reveals everything if the devotee cries to Her with a yearning heart. She has shown me everything that is in the Vedas, the Vedanta, the Puranas, and the Tantra.”

Denean, a Native American singer/songwriter, wrote this as part of the lyrics to the song "Divine Holy Breath":

Holy Mother, embrace me in your love / Holy Father, descending from above
Uniting in blissful harmony / Uniting in blissful harmony...
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
Why not female, though? Mother's give birth and take care of people and the earth. Father's are there at birth but did not give birth.

Stepping into the 21st century, tribalism has yet to be overruled by truth. The female carries more genetic material in to a baby than a man, and two eggs can be made into a baby, though they'd only be females. I think that the idea that God is male is a carry over of primitive misogynist behavior. God is likely beyond gender.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Stepping into the 21st century, tribalism has yet to be overruled by truth. The female carries more genetic material in to a baby than a man, and two eggs can be made into a baby, though they'd only be females. I think that the idea that God is male is a carry over of primitive misogynist behavior. God is likely beyond gender.

I would hope tribalism and all its violent consequences becomes a thing of the past. Judaism, Islam and some churches are classic examples that tribal separation that leads to violence.
 
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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
The Heavenly Father is usually thought of as male because fathers are male.

There is evidence for a mark of extraterrestrial intelligence left in our genetic code as evident by how the numeric and semantic message of 037 appears in our genetic code. Each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us descendants of our cosmic ancestor(s) with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.

“There is no plausible chemical logic to couple directly the triplets and the amino acids. In other words, the principles of chemistry where not the sought essence of the genetic code”

“The zero is the supreme abstraction of arithmetic. Its use by any alphabet, including the genetic code, can be an indicator of artificiality.”

"The place-value decimal system represented through digital symmetry of the numbers divisible by prime number (PN 037). This arithmetical syntactic feature is an innate attribute of the genetic code. The PN 037 notation with a leading zero emphasizes zero's equal participation in the digital symmetry. Numbers written by identical digits are devised by PN 037*3=111 and 1+1+1=3 and appear regularly [from the figure: 037*6 =222 and 2+2+2=6, 037*9=333 and 3+3+3 =9, 037*4=444 and 4+4+4=12, 037*15=555 and 5+5+5=15, 037*18=666 and 6+6+6=18, 037*21=777 and 7+7+7 =21. 037*24 =888 and 8+8+8=24, 037*27=999 and 9+9+9=27.)"

"There is a complete set of information symbols utilizing the decimal syntax 111, 222, 333, 444, 555, 666, 777, 888, 999 in the genetic code. Each of these symbols consists uniformly of a carrier (balanced nucleons) and a meaning (the decimal syntax)."

Reference: The "Wow! signal" of the terrestrial genetic code. Vladimir l. shCherbak and Maxim A. Makukov. Redirectinghttps://www.scribd.com/document/35302916...netic-Code

"The first information system emerged on the earth as primordial version of the genetic code and genetic texts. The natural appearance of arithmetic power in such a linguistic milieu is theoretically possible and practical for producing information systems of extremely high efficiency. In this case, the arithmetic symbols should be incorporated into an alphabet, i.e. the genetic code. A number is the fundamental arithmetic symbol produced by the system of numeration. If the system of numeration were detected inside the genetic code, it would be natural to expect that its purpose is arithmetic calculation e.g., for the sake of control, safety, and precise alteration of the genetic texts. The nucleons of amino acids and the bases of nucleic acids seem most suitable for embodiments of digits. These assumptions were used for the analyzing the genetic code.

The compressed, life-size, and split representation of the Escherichia coli and Euplotes octocarinatus code versions were considered simultaneously. An exact equilibration of the nucleon sums of the amino acid standard blocks and/or side chains was found repeatedly within specified sets of the genetic code. Moreover, the digital notations of the balanced sums acquired, in decimal representation, the unique form 111, 222, …, 999. This form is a consequence of the criterion of divisibility by 037. The criterion could simplify some computing mechanism of a cell if any and facilitate its computational procedure.

Reference: Biosystems Volume 70, Issue 3, August 2003, Pages 187-209
"Arithmetic inside the universal genetic code" Author: Vladimir I. shCherbak

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...4703000662

"Numerous arithmetical regularities of nucleon numbers of canonical amino acids for quite different systematizations of the genetic code, which are dominantly based on decimal number 037, indicate the hidden existence of a more universal ordering principle. Mathematical analysis of number 037 reveals that it is a unique decimal number from which an infinite set of self-similar numbers can be derived with the nested numerical, geometrical, and arithmetical properties, thus enabling the nested coding and computing in the (bio)systems by geometry and resonance. The omnipresent fractal structural and dynamical organization, as well as the intertwining of quantum and classical realm in the physical and biological systems could be just the consequence of such coding and computing."

Reference: NeuroQuantology | December 2011 | Vol 9 | Issue 4 | Page 702-715 Masic, Natasa Nested Properties of shCherbak’s PQ 037 and (Biological) Coding/Computing Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Propertiesof shCherbak’s Prime Quantum 037 as a Base of (Biological) Coding/Computing
http://Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Properties


Exactly who/what left its/their mark in our genetic coding might not ever get determined by anybody presently bound to Earth. The search for our cosmic relatives and cosmic common ancestor likely then needs to be done with advanced space exploration. I'd like to urge you then to please advise our Senate, Congress and President to expand our tax-payer funded resources for advance space exploration.



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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
There is evidence for a mark of extraterrestrial intelligence left in our genetic code as evident by how the numeric and semantic message of 037 appears in our genetic code. Each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us descendants of our cosmic ancestor(s) with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.

“There is no plausible chemical logic to couple directly the triplets and the amino acids. In other words, the principles of chemistry where not the sought essence of the genetic code”

“The zero is the supreme abstraction of arithmetic. Its use by any alphabet, including the genetic code, can be an indicator of artificiality.”

"The place-value decimal system represented through digital symmetry of the numbers divisible by prime number (PN 037). This arithmetical syntactic feature is an innate attribute of the genetic code. The PN 037 notation with a leading zero emphasizes zero's equal participation in the digital symmetry. Numbers written by identical digits are devised by PN 037*3=111 and 1+1+1=3 and appear regularly [from the figure: 037*6 =222 and 2+2+2=6, 037*9=333 and 3+3+3 =9, 037*4=444 and 4+4+4=12, 037*15=555 and 5+5+5=15, 037*18=666 and 6+6+6=18, 037*21=777 and 7+7+7 =21. 037*24 =888 and 8+8+8=24, 037*27=999 and 9+9+9=27.)"

"There is a complete set of information symbols utilizing the decimal syntax 111, 222, 333, 444, 555, 666, 777, 888, 999 in the genetic code. Each of these symbols consists uniformly of a carrier (balanced nucleons) and a meaning (the decimal syntax)."

Reference: The "Wow! signal" of the terrestrial genetic code. Vladimir l. shCherbak and Maxim A. Makukov. Redirectinghttps://www.scribd.com/document/35302916...netic-Code

"The first information system emerged on the earth as primordial version of the genetic code and genetic texts. The natural appearance of arithmetic power in such a linguistic milieu is theoretically possible and practical for producing information systems of extremely high efficiency. In this case, the arithmetic symbols should be incorporated into an alphabet, i.e. the genetic code. A number is the fundamental arithmetic symbol produced by the system of numeration. If the system of numeration were detected inside the genetic code, it would be natural to expect that its purpose is arithmetic calculation e.g., for the sake of control, safety, and precise alteration of the genetic texts. The nucleons of amino acids and the bases of nucleic acids seem most suitable for embodiments of digits. These assumptions were used for the analyzing the genetic code.

The compressed, life-size, and split representation of the Escherichia coli and Euplotes octocarinatus code versions were considered simultaneously. An exact equilibration of the nucleon sums of the amino acid standard blocks and/or side chains was found repeatedly within specified sets of the genetic code. Moreover, the digital notations of the balanced sums acquired, in decimal representation, the unique form 111, 222, …, 999. This form is a consequence of the criterion of divisibility by 037. The criterion could simplify some computing mechanism of a cell if any and facilitate its computational procedure.

Reference: Biosystems Volume 70, Issue 3, August 2003, Pages 187-209
"Arithmetic inside the universal genetic code" Author: Vladimir I. shCherbak

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...4703000662

"Numerous arithmetical regularities of nucleon numbers of canonical amino acids for quite different systematizations of the genetic code, which are dominantly based on decimal number 037, indicate the hidden existence of a more universal ordering principle. Mathematical analysis of number 037 reveals that it is a unique decimal number from which an infinite set of self-similar numbers can be derived with the nested numerical, geometrical, and arithmetical properties, thus enabling the nested coding and computing in the (bio)systems by geometry and resonance. The omnipresent fractal structural and dynamical organization, as well as the intertwining of quantum and classical realm in the physical and biological systems could be just the consequence of such coding and computing."

Reference: NeuroQuantology | December 2011 | Vol 9 | Issue 4 | Page 702-715 Masic, Natasa Nested Properties of shCherbak’s PQ 037 and (Biological) Coding/Computing Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Propertiesof shCherbak’s Prime Quantum 037 as a Base of (Biological) Coding/Computing
http://Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Properties


Exactly who/what left its/their mark in our genetic coding might not ever get determined by anybody presently bound to Earth. The search for our cosmic relatives and cosmic common ancestor likely then needs to be done with advanced space exploration. I'd like to urge you then to please advise our Senate, Congress and President to expand our tax-payer funded resources for advance space exploration.



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Bizarrely off topic,! If I I was the thread author I would ask you to leave for preaching bizarro nonsense, and blog blocking propaganda.
 

9-18-1

Active Member
Ramakrishna honored and adored the Divine Mother as the following excerpt shows. We can focus on how our heart invites us to focus: masculine, feminine, both or beyond the gender polarity.

I wept before the Mother and prayed. “O Mother, please tell me, please reveal to me what the yogis have realized through yoga and the jnanis through discrimination.” And the Mother has revealed everything to me. She reveals everything if the devotee cries to Her with a yearning heart. She has shown me everything that is in the Vedas, the Vedanta, the Puranas, and the Tantra.”

Denean, a Native American singer/songwriter, wrote this as part of the lyrics to the song "Divine Holy Breath":

Holy Mother, embrace me in your love / Holy Father, descending from above
Uniting in blissful harmony / Uniting in blissful harmony...

This is beautiful - thank you.

From the Baha'i perspective God does not have a gender, nor is there a royal 'we.'

According to the Hebrew the entity responsible for creating the heavens and the earth is/are actually not the "highest" notion of the Supreme, which is hashem (YHVH). Whereas Elohim would represent the two primordial polarities acting in unison, YHVH is the singular(ity) from whence such a relationship could possibly occur. If one were to imagine an upside-down cone: Elohim is the circular base whereas the point is YHVH. So technically the Supreme does transcend gender, but it is beyond the physical creation which does not transcend gender - the Supreme (YHVH) is expressed through the two genders via Elohim which requires the royal 'We' because there are two polarities.

Bizarrely off topic,! If I I was the thread author I would ask you to leave for preaching bizarro nonsense, and blog blocking propaganda.

I actually appreciate it - we should all give others the right to express anything/everything they feel is relevant. This actually relates to the biblical fall of man and the number 666.

In this case it actually is: the gematria of Genesis 1:1 is totaled 2701. This can be factored as 37 x 73.

This 37x73 is a very important number that relates to the three primordial emanations governing seven others. The kabbalistic tree of life is built on this framework:

kabbalah-the-tree-of-life.png

Now when one thrice removes 666 from 2701 we produce 703:

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Because the three primordial emanations govern the three centers of the being: head, heart and sex (Christianity: Father/Son/Holy Spirit; Hindu: Brahma/Vishnu/Shiva) when the 'mark' is applied to each, a remainder of 703 shares the numerical value(s) of:

כמו הראשון האדם וחוה
"like the first Adam and Eve"

and/or

שם המשיח
"name [of] the Messiah"

Now of course 666 expressed in Hebrew:
סקס סקס וסקס
"sex, sex and sex"

When each of the three centers: head, heart, sex, are wholly occupied by sex, this is the beast which leaves the remainder as the primordial man/woman which existed prior to the fall and/or the "name" of "the Messiah".

This is why I sometimes over-emphasize the importance of understanding that Hebrew is not only a spoken language, it is a numerical one. Precisely in the same way computer code is numerical, the Hebrew "system" is likewise numerical and actually (can) describe(s) equations. The "equation" of Genesis 1:1 describes the model for "continuous creation" which is... well, beautiful because it is literally "everything-there-is" contained in one 28-letter string.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
According to the Hebrew the entity responsible for creating the heavens and the earth is/are actually not the "highest" notion of the Supreme, which is hashem (YHVH). Whereas Elohim would represent the two primordial polarities acting in unison, YHVH is the singular(ity) from whence such a relationship could possibly occur. If one were to imagine an upside-down cone: Elohim is the circular base whereas the point is YHVH. So technically the Supreme does transcend gender, but it is beyond the physical creation which does not transcend gender - the Supreme (YHVH) is expressed through the two genders via Elohim which requires the royal 'We' because there are two polarities.

I consider the references you cite from scripture, and those following to be a human view of God, not God who is unknowable and indivisible from the human perspective, also influenced by older Canaanite, Sumarian and Babylonian view of God or God(s) from which much of Genesis and other OT scripture came from.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
The Heavenly Father is usually thought of as male because fathers are male.
But if God is capable of bearing offspring, then God is (also) female.

If God is omnipotent, then God can do anything. Therefore, if God is omnipotent, God is female.

A similar argument can be used to establish that an omnipotent god would also be male.
 

9-18-1

Active Member
I consider the references you cite from scripture, and those following to be a human view of God, not God who is unknowable and indivisible from the human perspective, also influenced by older Canaanite, Sumarian and Babylonian view of God or God(s) from which much of Genesis and other OT scripture came from.

I do not consider God to be unknowable - unknowable in entirety perhaps - but the argument I would make is one can not only 'know' *of* God (gnosis; jnana) as they become more familiar with the relationship between the polarities, but they merge with it because fundamentally there is only *one* energy and 'knowing' them is the same as 'knowing' 'good and evil' as the אלהים are purported to know in contrast to fallible man.

To state there is not any relationship(s) between polarities sustaining creation at any given moment is rather denying creation itself - as such I wouldn't go to the length of saying אלהים is made in the image of man as others might. It necessarily must be *the* image/likeness of the source of creation because the source of creation depends on two polarities, just as electromagnetism depends on two poles. Any other characteristic(s) given beyond this, however and appropriately, could certainly be a product of a "human view" but to deny the polarity itself as a basic axiom is problematic.

It is true that the books of Moses are influenced by various cult(ure)s and while it is rather firmly established there is not one author 'Moses' of them, that should not discount careful analysis of what they contain. For example the first 28-letter string of Genesis is a model for continuous creation and describes the "shape" used to derive the 22 (27) characters used as the basis of the "language". It is obviously imparted by an intelligence(s) well beyond our own presently; without the need to say "therefor GOD" one must give due considerations which I attempt to do. In any event, religious institutions such as Christianity/Islam effectively deny the co-dependence of masculine/feminine which puts them as far away from the "teachings of Moses" (whom they consider a prophet) as is possible, which is what interests me. Re-establishing such an "honor" of both polarities would alleviate a tremendous amount of global suffering/death caused by patriarchal institutions claiming so-called divine authority.
 

9-18-1

Active Member
But if God is capable of bearing offspring, then God is (also) female.

If God is omnipotent, then God can do anything. Therefore, if God is omnipotent, God is female.

A similar argument can be used to establish that an omnipotent god would also be male.

Here is another interesting way to read אלהים

אל- god (towards).......................Sperm
ה - the...........................................in (toward)
ים - sea/expanse..........................Ovum

As such the name אלהים is a synthesis of how creation works via masculine/feminine, man/woman, seed/womb etc. which describes a "toward" action (god) acting in an expanse (sea). This is an allusion to the process of fecundation itself.
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
But if God is capable of bearing offspring, then God is (also) female.

If God is omnipotent, then God can do anything. Therefore, if God is omnipotent, God is female.

A similar argument can be used to establish that an omnipotent god would also be male.
Wonderful how aomeone who does not believe in God knows so much about him.
 

9-18-1

Active Member
Wonderful how aomeone who does not believe in God knows so much about him.

And you do?

If you read carefully, you'll see that my post only deat with the implications of claims about gods by theists. I never made any claims about any actual gods.

This is why I say "BELIEF" is NOT A VIRTUE.
If GOD exists, why "BELIEVE" in [the existence of GOD].
Why not seek to know for ones own self.

And many therefor say:
"God can not be known..."

Perhaps not fully known, but most certainly can be known of. To know of how the solar system works - surely a product of any practically possible 'GOD' - and the laws governing the movement(s) of the bodies; constituency of matters and energies; seasonal (cyclic cycles): all product(s) of any practically possible 'GOD'.

To know such things is to better know the source of creation which can not be distinct from 'GOD', for what else is there to be argued by a theist that 'GOD' created all things?

This is why "belief"-based institutions (derived by systems of collective consciousness) such as Christianity and Islam are fatally flawed in their core structure: they are "belief"-based rather than knowledge-based.

In much to the same (identical) manner there is a solar year (cycle) comprised of twelve months, there is a Great solar year (cycle) comprised of twelve epochs each lasting 2 160 years for a total of 25 920 years. This micro- solar-year is reflected into the macro- Great-solar-year in the same manner as a fractal.

In the Piscean age (present; moving into Aquarius) two fish denote two "types" of people:
upper fish: one who knows
lower fish: one who believes
and yearly all manifested beings "pass through" this stage roughly in the month of February before a new cycle begins on March 21 (solar new year, not Gregorian calendar new year).

And the Christians/Muslims represent the "believers" "believing" that "belief" is a virtue.
 

Ancient Soul

The Spiritual Universe
Androgynous

Merriam-Webster
: having the characteristics or nature of both male and female
Definition of ANDROGYNOUS

Collins:
: In biology, an androgynous person, animal, or plant has both male and female sexual characteristics.
Androgynous definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary

Dictionary.com:
: being both male and female; hermaphroditic.
the definition of androgyny

andro - masculine
gyn - feminine
ous - [state of]

The royal 'We' is an expression used to denote any action(s) undertaken and/or committed to that are shared between the Patriarchy (masculine) and the Matriarchy (feminine) of any 'state' which utilizes a King-and-Queen foundation. As such if a Patriarch or Matriarch were addressing an audience and says "I" he/she speaks for their own being and not of that of the other. However if either say "We" it is of equally shared sentiment.

This royal 'We' applies to the Genesis 1:1 word often translated 'GOD':

בראשית ברא אלהים את השמים ואת הארץ
In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth.

אלהים is an androgynous form and can be read in several possible, and equally viable, ways. In any such reading, this word describes (is an equation of) the archetypal relationship between the masculine and feminine nature(s) of creation when they are absolutely united as one form. Like the example above: אלהים describes the royal 'We' that is equally shared between a Patriarch and a Matriarch. As such אלהים is wholly androgynous, wholly Royal.

When read inside of itself the word is plural. However, when addressed from the outside by another word (such as the preceding ברא) it is properly treated as a singular as אלהים is absolutely united as one form built upon a relationship between two polarities. For example, when אלהים is speaking it is assuming its own plurality. However, when being referenced from the exterior it takes on the singular which is by default masculine. This can be seen easily in Genesis 1:26-27.

It is for this reason we read in Genesis 1:26 (speaking as; inside-out; using royal 'We')
And אלהים said 'Let us make man in our image after our likeness and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth'.

And in Genesis 1:27 (speaking of; outside-in; using singular 'he')
So אלהים created man in his own image in the image of אלהים created he him male and female created he them

with the latter still explicitly indicating that the object אלהים itself contains an image of male and female.

This is precisely why I openly condemn the religious institutions of Christianity and Islam which are both patriarchal (with a very little p-p) sword-armed idol-based sexually degenerated institutions that places idols of (dead) men before adherents who are persuaded (via books) to imitate them for a living. And as a non-Christian and a non-Muslim I read in Moses' second book of:

Exodus 20:12
"Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you."

As when a "system" is established between masculine and feminine (man and woman) the stability of this system determines its nature: if highly stable, longevity ensues. If highly unstable, destruction follows. This is the same principle as applied to engine(s): the more efficient they are, the longer they last. This also applies to two spherical bodies suspended in a space-time vacuum: the degree to which their orbits are 'balanced' determines the stability/longevity of their orbit(s).

The two polarities which are described by אלהים are (is) the most basic natural 'engine' and/or 'source' of 'creation'. The degree to which one can 'balance' them and/or 'honor' them directly relates to the longevity one experiences and is directly related to the 'tree of knowledge'.

Feel free to bring agreements and/or objections.
Androgynous

Merriam-Webster
: having the characteristics or nature of both male and female
Definition of ANDROGYNOUS

Collins:
: In biology, an androgynous person, animal, or plant has both male and female sexual characteristics.
Androgynous definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary

Dictionary.com:
: being both male and female; hermaphroditic.
the definition of androgyny

andro - masculine
gyn - feminine
ous - [state of]

The royal 'We' is an expression used to denote any action(s) undertaken and/or committed to that are shared between the Patriarchy (masculine) and the Matriarchy (feminine) of any 'state' which utilizes a King-and-Queen foundation. As such if a Patriarch or Matriarch were addressing an audience and says "I" he/she speaks for their own being and not of that of the other. However if either say "We" it is of equally shared sentiment.

This royal 'We' applies to the Genesis 1:1 word often translated 'GOD':

בראשית ברא אלהים את השמים ואת הארץ
In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth.

אלהים is an androgynous form and can be read in several possible, and equally viable, ways. In any such reading, this word describes (is an equation of) the archetypal relationship between the masculine and feminine nature(s) of creation when they are absolutely united as one form. Like the example above: אלהים describes the royal 'We' that is equally shared between a Patriarch and a Matriarch. As such אלהים is wholly androgynous, wholly Royal.

When read inside of itself the word is plural. However, when addressed from the outside by another word (such as the preceding ברא) it is properly treated as a singular as אלהים is absolutely united as one form built upon a relationship between two polarities. For example, when אלהים is speaking it is assuming its own plurality. However, when being referenced from the exterior it takes on the singular which is by default masculine. This can be seen easily in Genesis 1:26-27.

It is for this reason we read in Genesis 1:26 (speaking as; inside-out; using royal 'We')
And אלהים said 'Let us make man in our image after our likeness and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth'.

And in Genesis 1:27 (speaking of; outside-in; using singular 'he')
So אלהים created man in his own image in the image of אלהים created he him male and female created he them

with the latter still explicitly indicating that the object אלהים itself contains an image of male and female.

This is precisely why I openly condemn the religious institutions of Christianity and Islam which are both patriarchal (with a very little p-p) sword-armed idol-based sexually degenerated institutions that places idols of (dead) men before adherents who are persuaded (via books) to imitate them for a living. And as a non-Christian and a non-Muslim I read in Moses' second book of:

Exodus 20:12
"Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you."


Feel free to bring agreements and/or objections.

God does not have a "sex".

ALL spiritual entities, Deities, and God are purely spiritual energy beings, meaning without any form, so have no "sex". That's only for life forms in the physical world.

And there is no "we" in God. It's hard to tell where those verses you quoted really came from. So much of the bible was plagiarized form so many previous pagan scriptures, it probably came from some other many "god" religion. But while I've met many powerful Deities in my spiritual experiences, I am certain that there is only one True God.
 
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