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Fundamental or Natural Rights

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
Without a Creator can there be such a thing as a Natural Right?
No. Rights exist within the realm of ethics, not morality. At common law there's a strong connection between a Creator and natural rights:

"Those rights then which God and nature have established, and are therefore called natural rights, such as are life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man than they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal laws to be inviolable. On the contrary, no human legislature has power to abridge or destroy them, unless the owner shall himself commit some act that amounts to a forfeiture." ~ Blackstone
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Go to Africa and tell them how well off they are.
Predominantly Christian Africa? That one?

From there, take your message to the middle east,
Again, not exactly secular.

then zip over to China and tell them how their human rights have improved.
In the last few decades, they probably have improved compared to the situation before.

Finish up in Britain, where poverty is increasing at an alarming rate.
Britain, where clerics are appointed democratically to the upper house of the legislature and where many children are denied the opportunity for a non-religious education.

Again: not exactly secular.

The prevailing trend the world over is that as secularism increases, so does well-being.

Then, tell me how well off the world is.[/QUOTE]
 
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