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Frontline: Trump's American Carnage

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Wandering Monk, Jan 27, 2021.

  1. Wandering Monk

    Wandering Monk Well-Known Member

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    Watch this, I dare you!




    Trump encouraging violence against protestors at his rallies

    6:58 Trump: 'There's a guy, totally disruptive, throwing punches. I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They'd be carried out on a stretcher folks. I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell ya.'

    7:33: Trump: 'You know, knock the crap out of him. Just knock the hell....I promise you I will pay all the legal fees. I promise.'
     
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  2. Sunstone

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    Anyone who still isn't sure Trump has done such things, is in a different ballpark from those who are sure.

    Anyone who is sure he's done such things, and approves of him doing them, is also in a different ballpark, only a moral one this time.

    In either case, they are too far away to hear you shouting at them to wake up.
     
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  3. Heyo

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    "We're sorry, but this video is not available."

    So, what's new?
     
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    Wandering Monk Well-Known Member

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    I clicked on the link in the OP just now and was able to watch it just fine.
     
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    Democrat operatives were caught sending violent people into Trump rallies in 2016 so cry us a river.

     
  6. Valjean

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    Link?
     
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  7. Wandering Monk

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    It's in the OP.

    Here is one on Youtube:

     
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    Maybe area coded?
     
  9. Valjean

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    I saw this on TV. I don't recall the part about "democratic operatives." Can you give me a time stamp so I can review the operatives' part without watching the whole thing again?
    Thanx.
     
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    Don't know what you are talking about. I didn't say anything about Democratic operatives and I don't remember anything in the video mentioning it either.
     
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    I changed the link to YouTube. The other one was a PBS Facebook link to my timeline. Probably why it didn't work for you.
     
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    That's because he was asking @cOLTER for a link regarding his post about supposed operatives.
     
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    It worked for me, but the YouTube link should be more universally accessible. And a very nice job on that documentary.
     
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    You NAILED it... on this one..

    Reminds me of Biden

    'You Wanna Go Outside With Me?' Joe Biden Tries to Fight Union Worker After Disagreement Over Gun Control
     
  15. Valjean

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    Sorry. It was cOLTER's claim I was responding to. I thought he was referring to the Frontline segment, but the video in question is this:

    It's apparently one of James O'Keefe's (yes, the ACORN O'Keefe) anti-liberal "gotcha!" videos.

    O'Keefe is famous for baiting employees of liberal and community action groups, secretly recording dozens of interviews till he gets something he can use, then piecing together highly edited clips, with a false implied context, to create misleading propaganda pieces.
    The original tapes, now over four years old, have not come to light, and the context and dynamics of the statements are unknown.
    CNN Replies:


    PBS has also commented:
     
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    In any large organization or government program you can find questionable supporters and some outright wackos. It's always a good idea to do some research to distinguish the outliers from the mainstream movement, and do some comparison and contrast. This is a common propaganda tool.

    Is the behavior in question typical? Is it a common feature of the organization or its supporters?

    Remember how Nixon managed to prolong the Vietnam war by two years by undermining the Paris Peace talks with secret communications to the S. Vietnamese embassy and President Thieu? Nixon Tried to Spoil Johnson’s Vietnam Peace Talks in ’68, Notes Show (Published 2017)

    I remember how the Reagan campaign managed to undermine the whole US Welfare system with a single, career con artist and thief, promoted as as a typical Welfare abuser. The Real Story of Linda Taylor, America’s Original Welfare Queen

    The GOP managed to scuttle John Kerry's presidential bid with a dishonest "swiftboating" campaign. Swift Vets and POWs for Truth - Wikipedia

    This win-at-all-costs, end-justifies-means style of campaigning had been typical of the Republican Right for decades. It's a rare tactic amongst Democrats and the Left.
     
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  18. Valjean

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    What's your point -- That Biden has a habit of putting his foot in his mouth? I'm sure he does have his cognitive biases, but are these reflected in actual policies?
     
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    Yes, he has shame about being a racist which is reflected in his policies.
     
  20. Valjean

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    Isn't that a good thing? [​IMG]
     
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